Doctors in Britain call for increased weapons bans

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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    Doctors in Britain call for increased weapons bans

    Doctors' kitchen knives ban call

    Doctors say knives are too pointed
    A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.
    A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

    They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

    The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

    The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

    They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

    None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

    The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.


    Kitchen knives can inflict appalling wounds

    In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon".

    The use of knives is particularly worrying amongst adolescents, say the researchers, reporting that 24% of 16-year-olds have been shown to carry weapons, primarily knives.

    The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established.

    French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

    A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

    The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

    "The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.

    "We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."

    Government response

    Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives.

    "The law already prohibits the possession of offensive weapons in a public place, and the possession of knives in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding three inches.

    "Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

    "An individual has to demonstrate that he had good reason to possess a knife, for example for fishing, other sporting purposes or as part of his profession (e.g. a chef) in a public place.

    "The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives."

    A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."

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  • Redballjets88
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    • Mar 2005
    • 4469

    #2
    like a ban on that would 1. ever get through a vote.....and 2. even work
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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32942

      #3
      What about meat carving forks and ice picks?
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32942

        #4
        While we are at it, how about cricket bats? You could split a skull open with one of those.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Mr Grimsdale
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Jan 2004
          • 9510

          #5
          Muppets.

          I think the last paragraph sums it up.
          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
          A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."
          As for BBBs tag line about gun control it worked while we had secure borders and a sense of public decency. Gun crime was very low, almost unheard of. I'm not sure how relaxing controls would help the situation, all we'd end up with is a lot more people with guns who have no training and/or no sense of responsibility. Unfortunately during the last 8 years things have taken a turn for the worse, I'm just trying to think who's been Prime Minister during that time.
          Originally posted by flappo
          i'm sure grimsdale's on drugs

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          translating your Japanese.


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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32942

            #6
            Shit, if you are crazy enough to kill someone, who gives a fuck about what laws are on the books? You can kill someone with a rock or a nice and solid tree branch. Take my gun, I will just make a flame thrower instead.

            The focus on the weapon is just dumb. The whole problem is someone chose to kill someone else.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • Cathedral
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Jan 2004
              • 6621

              #7
              Just the two words together makes me laugh, "Gun Control", lmmfao.

              I do control my guns, and i do it very well.
              Pass your laws, ban them all, but remember to watch your ass on my property because i'll never be sitting here unarmed, EVER.

              People, it is NOT the law abiding citizens who own guns that need to be watched, it is the people who don't obey laws that are the problem.
              Now explain to me how passing more laws will help when it's the lawless that break them?

              I'll not have my right's violated for the crimes of others. But i'll surely blow their ass to kingdom come if they try to victimise me and mine again.
              Anyone who enters my home while my family and I are asleep is a dead man, period.

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49567

                #8
                That's a pretty silly idea for ban I must say...Maybe they've been watching too many slasher flicks.

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                • Big Train
                  Full Member Status

                  • Apr 2004
                  • 4013

                  #9
                  It just seems weird to me when people cite gun control stats and murders in other countries. These fuckers WOULD kill if they had guns. I wonder how many of these attacks result in "intense superficial wounds" and how many in murders. Crime is on the rise, the man says it himself...if they only had Rambo knives.

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