Is Howard Dean's Raised Voice Raising Cash?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I'll second that opinion. DIAMONDD is no dolt, right-wing asshole maybe,:D but an intelligent one nonetheless. The FORCE is strong in this one...

I respect my man Nick, and my favorite counselor GS a great deal, and will take into consideration their views.

That being said, anyone who can't spell Caucasian correctly on their AV, or posts at a JizzySTOOL level will remain a dolt in my book until proven otherwise.

I can take the flames in here, and respect even the most right wing opinions [warpig, brie, et al ] but diamondDOLT telling me to finish grade school while butchering his native tongue is too much.

Back to topic:

Howard Dean is the DNC Chair. He's a mouthpiece / fundraiser

He's doing his job well.

BUT HE DOESN'T DICTATE FOREIGN POLICY OR THE DOMESTIC AGENDA FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION

For that, the BLAME falls squarely on the "Commander in Thief"

We now return you to your regularly scheduled flamefest

[superdave]

Gephardt would have been a better DNC chair, at least I trust him

[FORD]

Originally posted by rustoffa
As per the norm, Lounge nails it. It's all about the source's credibility.

Take myself for example. I had a thread CLOSED today. The thought of cuntplaining in Feedback never crossed my mind. I considered the source's credibility, forgot about it until just now, and watched trained seals on the local news sensationalize a tropical depression.

It's a fucking storm dipshits. It's tropically depressing me. The waves in Pensacola look like a Fernandina Beach beachbreak. Roll the plywood purchasing footage and go die.

You mean you actually HAD a source for that shit? I thought you just made it up as a satire on the 666 other Dean threads. :D

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by FORD
You mean you actually HAD a source for that shit? I thought you just made it up as a satire on the 666 other Dean threads. :D

:D

[diamondD]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
One fucking thread compared to five on the same topic? Some of us lack your narcissistic, inward world view...

BTW, we have many AUSTRALIANS that are regular contributors to this board and this forum. I would pity the day it only becomes solely about BBB's partisan ramblings...

I agree on the many threads about the same topic. But FORD's been doing it for years. I was just giving you a hard time about the non-issue part.

[Warham]

Yeah, only BBB has partisan ramblings on this forum...

[diamondD]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Who's worked up?

Not me.

I just take those things into consideration when someone tries to tell me what's right or wrong.

I give you very little credit.

At least Warham and Brie are intelligent. You're just a fucking dolt.

:D

I didn't tell you anything about right or wrong. I've ignored you for weeks. You came in here after me.

I knew it was misspelled. I've just been too lazy to worry about fixing it until I change the picture again. Just haven't been in a hurry to do that. I'll get it corrected so that you can have a bitch fit over something else.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Yeah, only BBB has partisan ramblings on this forum...

You know what I mean.

ASHTALIA posted an article about an Australian Navy helicopter crash, and he sort of got flamed for it! I thought it was bullshit. This is an international forum. Based in AMERICA, but read around the world....

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by diamondD
I didn't tell you anything about right or wrong. I've ignored you for weeks. You came in here after me.

I knew it was misspelled. I've just been too lazy to worry about fixing it until I change the picture again. Just haven't been in a hurry to do that. I'll get it corrected so that you can have a bitch fit over something else.

Huh?

I have no idea WTF you're rambling about.

Ignored? after?

Nevermind. Couldn't possibly care less.

Go back to that ignoring part. It was working fine.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
You know what I mean.

ASHTALIA posted an article about an Australian Navy helicopter crash, and he sort of got flamed for it! I thought it was bullshit. This is an international forum. Based in AMERICA, but read around the world....

I remember thinking the same thing when I saw that. Wish I'd said something then.

I firmly believe many of our current problems are a direct result of us as a country walking this earth as if we owned it. Dictating our will and beliefs on others, and taking what we want.

Problem with that is, there's always someone who comes along and shows you you aren't immortal.

Empires fall.

Usually right on the people.

We had the world behind us 100% after 9/11

And I'm not terribly proud of how this administration has represented us these last few years.

Warham can be ashamed of his president who got a blow job and lied about it.

I'll always be more ashamed of my president who led us into war, and lied about it.

Flame away, gentlemen

[LoungeMachine]

Re: Howard Dean's Raised Voice Isn't Raising Cash

Originally posted by Warham
Washington Outlook
Edited by Lee Walczak

Howard Dean's Raised Voice Isn't Raising Cash

One hundred days into his tenure as the high-energy, higher-decibel chairman of the Democratic Party, Howard Dean is in trouble

100 days?

Then it's still Terry McAuliffe's fault.

According to Warham's logic, no one is responsible even after something occurs 8 MONTHS into their tenure.

Just playing fair.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
Yeah, only BBB has partisan ramblings on this forum...

You don't give yourself enough credit

[Warham]

Even if I can't judge Howard's performance based on your post, I can still judge him based on his comments.

[academic punk]

here's the latest...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/11/dean.attacks.ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean said Saturday that positive responses from key supporters have reinforced his determination to keep talking tough, even though some congressional Democrats have suggested he should tone down his rhetoric.

"People want us to fight," Dean told the national party's executive committee. "We are here to fight."

Addressing Iowa party activists later Saturday in Des Moines, he added: "We need to be blunt and clear about the things we're going to fight for. I'm tired of lying down in front of the Republican machine. We need to stand up for what we believe in."

"We can use some of your passion," Rep. Leonard Boswell, D-Iowa, told Dean at the Iowa fundraiser.

Over the past week, Dean described Republicans as "pretty much a white, Christian party" and said many in the GOP "never made an honest living."

Several Democratic lawmakers distanced themselves from their chairman. Republican officials called on him to apologize. After weathering the criticism, Dean forged ahead with the GOP scolding at the meeting of Democratic National Committee leaders.

Yet some Democrats say the former Vermont governor should not remain the center of attention.

"Privately, people have said they don't want Howard Dean to become the story because we have more important issues to talk about," said Donna Brazile, who managed Al Gore's presidential campaign in 2000.

"But publicly we will continue to give Howard Dean our strong support," she said.

One of Dean's predecessors at the DNC, Don Fowler said, "The controversy over this statement or that statement is a blip and only a blip." But Fowler complained about leading Democrats who aired their gripes last week. "Even if they don't like it, they should have enough sense not to make those comments," Fowler said.

At the session in a downtown hotel, Dean accused Republicans of trying to suppress the vote, selling access to the White House for lobbyists and basically being dishonest with the public.

"The reason the Republicans are in trouble is because there are so many cases where they say one thing and do something else," Dean said.

He said President Bush's education initiative, the "No Child Left Behind" program, cuts school spending and a clean environment plan, the "Clear Skies Initiative," permits more pollution.

A spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee said Dean would rather sling mud than discuss serious matters.

"Dean's inflammatory rhetoric makes it clear that Democrats have no vision and would rather pander to the maniacal fringe than talk about the important issues facing our country," Tracey Schmitt said.

On political fundraising, the DNC trails the Republican Party by more than 2-to-1 despite Dean's reputation as a potent fundraiser. The Democrats have raised almost $19 million so far this year.

Dean said he is bringing in $1 million weekly and that $100,000 was received, unsolicited, from online donors during a 24-hour period in the past week as the furor over his remarks grew.

Records show the DNC took in $13.8 million over the first three months of 2005, compared with $8.4 million during the same period in 2003, the last year without a federal election. Terry McAuliffe was party chairman then.

Dean has given more than $1 million from the DNC to state parties. He said the DNC plans to share some of the money Dean raises for the national party when he is in a state. Both of these moves are winning him support from state party leaders.

In his remarks, Dean made few references to the recent brouhaha.

But when a DNC member joked that the best way to get the chairman's attention was to "jump up and down," a grinning Dean fired back: "That's my job."

The crowd of Democratic activists burst into applause.

[FORD]

Records show the DNC took in $13.8 million over the first three months of 2005, compared with $8.4 million during the same period in 2003, the last year without a federal election. Terry McAuliffe was party chairman then.

To put these numbers into further perspective, consider this.....

In January after an election year, with DNC chairmanship up for grabs, there was not a lot of fundraising being done at DNC headquarters.

Howard Dean officially became DNC chair on February 12, 2005. This means that the bulk of money raised by the DNC for the first quarter of 2005 came in between mid-February and the end of March. So in other words, Dean raised $13.8 million in half the time that it took McAulliffe to dig up $8.4 million. That's an increase of 60.8% in half the time.

I'd say Dean is doing great