Former Bush Team Member Says WTC Collapse Likely A Controlled Demolition & 'Inside

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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    Keeyth at work in the yard...




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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 59619

      Originally posted by ELVIS
      I'm not, I'm standing my ground, and I did the research to back it up...

      You're an idiot...

      Believing the WTC collapse was a controlled demolition is beyond rediculous...
      Then what happenned to the outer frame?
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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        What do you mean ??

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        • diamondD
          Veteran
          • Jan 2004
          • 1962

          Originally posted by FORD
          Then what happenned to the outer frame?

          If it was destroyed by detonation as you are trying to imply, there would have been detonations going off all down the building. It started from the top and pancaked on itself.


          Why is this so hard to comprehend?
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          • diamondD
            Veteran
            • Jan 2004
            • 1962

            Originally posted by Keeyth
            Whatever dude. I'm not making bullshit up either.

            Just because I made the (admitted) mistake of saying lost transponder contact instead of lost radio contact is trivial. Why don't you focus on the point of the conversation instead of quibbling over semantics?

            It's not quibbling when you are throwing out "facts" that are made up lies and then calling people idiots for not believing your version of the story.

            The point that's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt is that you are a lying idiot. There's no conspiracy with that theory.
            Meet us in the future, not the pasture

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              LMAO!


              :D

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 59619

                Originally posted by ELVIS
                What do you mean ??
                The WTC concrete floors were supported by two things:

                1) The inner steel core

                2) The outer steel frame

                According to the Official BCE Cover Story© the inner core was melted/twisted/weakened by the jet fuel.

                Concrete does not conduct heat very well, so this temperature would not have spread from the inner core to the outer frame even if the story was true.

                So, assuming that the building's collapse was a simple matter of a gravity driven chain reaction, with one floor dropping onto another, and the resulting weight taking out each successive floor like a set of downward dominoes, then what happenned to the outer frame?

                The bolts holding the concrete floors to the frame likely would have snapped under such pressure, but the frame itself should have fallen outward or twisted in the wreckage. Yet only one significant chunk of the frame survived the demolition. The lower right corner of one of the towers, I believe...



                On the other hand, explosive charges which pulverized the concrete and turned it into dust would have also done the same thing to the metal frame, as the thermite explosives burn hot enough to liquify the steel.
                Eat Us And Smile

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                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • diamondD
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                  • Jan 2004
                  • 1962

                  Originally posted by FORD

                  Concrete does not conduct heat very well, so this temperature would not have spread from the inner core to the outer frame even if the story was true.


                  Do you get your facts from Keeyth?


                  Concrete does conduct heat. Show me otherwise. I'm not posting all the links that say it does. Show me ONE that doesn't.
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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    Originally posted by FORD
                    Concrete does not conduct heat very well, so this temperature would not have spread from the inner core to the outer frame even if the story was true.

                    Ok, Mr. Expert...

                    The bolts holding the concrete floors to the frame likely would have snapped under such pressure, but the frame itself should have fallen outward or twisted in the wreckage.

                    Ok, Mr. Structural engineer...

                    Yet only one significant chunk of the frame survived the demolition. The lower right corner of one of the towers, I believe...

                    Actually, small pieces were everywhere at ground zero...

                    On the other hand, explosive charges which pulverized the concrete and turned it into dust would have also done the same thing to the metal frame, as the thermite explosives burn hot enough to liquify the steel.

                    Did you read that on some 9-11 conspiracy website ??


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                    • Keeyth
                      Crazy Ass Mofo
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 3010

                      Originally posted by ELVIS
                      I'm not, I'm standing my ground, and I did the research to back it up...

                      You're an idiot...

                      Believing the WTC collapse was a controlled demolition is beyond rediculous...
                      Well, it's not, otherwise there wouldn't be people with physics degrees backing me up.
                      Knowing and believing are two very different things.

                      It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.

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                      • Keeyth
                        Crazy Ass Mofo
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 3010

                        Originally posted by diamondD
                        It's not quibbling when you are throwing out "facts" that are made up lies and then calling people idiots for not believing your version of the story.

                        The point that's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt is that you are a lying idiot. There's no conspiracy with that theory.

                        Blah, blah, you are a lying idiot, blah, blah , blah..


                        Dude, you and your arguements are weak...
                        Knowing and believing are two very different things.

                        It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.

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                        • Warham
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 14589

                          Originally posted by Keeyth
                          Well, it's not, otherwise there wouldn't be people with physics degrees backing me up.
                          What about the HUNDREDS, perhaps, THOUSANDS of people with structural engineering degrees who believe 9/11 happened as the official story says it happened? Are they ALL wrong?

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                          • Keeyth
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 3010

                            Originally posted by Warham
                            What about the HUNDREDS, perhaps, THOUSANDS of people with structural engineering degrees who believe 9/11 happened as the official story says it happened? Are they ALL wrong?
                            That, or paid off...
                            Knowing and believing are two very different things.

                            It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.

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                            • MERRYKISSMASS2U
                              Full Member Status

                              • Mar 2004
                              • 4372

                              Originally posted by ELVIS
                              I'm not, I'm standing my ground, and I did the research to back it up...

                              You're an idiot...

                              Believing the WTC collapse was a controlled demolition is beyond rediculous...

                              spoken by a true american. this theory is <H1><b>BULLSHIT</B</H1>

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                              • Warham
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 14589

                                Originally posted by Keeyth
                                That, or paid off...
                                Patently absurd. I don't know how you can expect a rational discussion with such sweeping generalizations.

                                So we have hundreds of men and women paid off and not ONE has ever come forward to say they were paid off? You are treading very close to Loch Ness monster, Bigfoot, and Men in Black kooks Keeyth, if not already there.

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