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  • DLR'sCock
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
    • 2937

    Bush's Support on Major Issues Tumbles in Poll

    Bush's Support on Major Issues Tumbles in Poll
    By Robin Toner and Marjorie Connelly
    The New York Times

    Friday 17 June 2005

    Increasingly pessimistic about Iraq and skeptical about President Bush's plan for Social Security, Americans are in a season of political discontent, giving Mr. Bush one of the lowest approval ratings of his presidency and even lower marks to Congress, according to the New York Times/CBS News Poll.

    Forty-two percent of the people responding to the poll said they approved of the way Mr. Bush was handling his job, a marked decline from his 51 percent rating after of the November election, when he embarked on an ambitious second term agenda led by the overhaul of Social Security. Sixteen months before the midterm elections, Congress fared even worse in the survey, with the approval of just 33 percent of the respondents, and 19 percent saying Congress shared their priorities.

    Despite months of presidential effort, the nationwide poll found the public is not rallying toward Mr. Bush's vision of a new Social Security that would allow younger workers to put part of their payroll taxes into private investment accounts. Two-thirds said they were uneasy about Mr. Bush's ability to make sound decisions on Social Security. Only 25 percent said they approved of the way Mr. Bush was handling Social Security, down slightly from what the poll found in March.

    Moreover, 45 percent said the more they heard about the Bush plan, the less they liked it. The survey also found the public shared the growing skepticism in Washington about Mr. Bush's prospects for success on Social Security, with most saying they did not think Mr. Bush would succeed.

    Still, Mr. Bush continued to have majority support for his handling of the war on terrorism - 52 percent - one of his strengths throughout his 2004 re-election campaign.

    Mr. Bush's approval rating is below the historical pattern for June in the first year of a second term: President Clinton's stood at 60 percent and President Reagan's at 59 percent. But that could reflect, in part, the much greater partisan polarization in modern politics, underscored by the 71 percentage point gap between Mr. Bush's approval rating from Democrats and Republicans in the recent poll. Nicolle Devenish, White House communications director, dismissed the significance of the poll, saying Mr. Bush believes that following polls is equivalent to a dog chasing its tail. "We have advanced a broad agenda, and will continue to advocate the people's priorities," she said.

    On Iraq, months of continued turmoil, insurgent attacks and casualties appear to have taken a further toll on public attitudes. Looking back, 51 percent said they thought the United States should have stayed out of Iraq, while 45 percent said military action was the right thing to do. That reflects only a slight erosion from findings by CBS News throughout the spring, but a marked turnaround from 2004, when pluralities tended to think it was still the right thing to do.

    Moreover, only 37 percent said they approved of Mr. Bush's handling of the situation in Iraq, down from 45 percent in February. A strong majority of Americans now say the effort by the United States to bring stability and order to Iraq is going badly - 60 percent, up from 47 percent in February.

    The latest poll was conducted by telephone June 10 through Wednesday with 1,111 adults and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.

    In general, the survey found Americans in a darker mood. In one key measure, only 33 percent said they thought the country was on the right track, while 61 percent said it had gone off in the wrong direction. Similar results were found by CBS News in April and May, but that measure of national optimism was markedly better last November. There was little change in the way Americans rate the current condition of the American economy - 54 percent say it is very or fairly good. But the number of Americans who say the economy is getting worse is growing, to 36 percent from 30 percent in February.

    When asked an open-ended question about the most important problems facing the nation, Americans cited the economy and jobs, war and terrorism at the top of the list. Social Security, which has consumed an enormous amount of political energy this spring, did not make the top six, suggesting voters have a different view of political priorities than the Republican-controlled Congress and the White House.

    The public's view of Congress dropped sharply earlier this year, and has hovered at unusually low levels since March, according to CBS News Polls.

    The sharpest drop in Congressional approval in recent months occurred among Republicans. In February, 54 percent of Republicans said they approved of the way Congress was doing its job; in the most recent poll, that had dropped to 40 percent. Some analysts suggest that Congress is paying the price for months of intense partisan struggle over judicial nominations and the decision to intervene in the right-to-die case of Terri Schiavo.

    Christine Weisman, a 54-year-old Republican homemaker in Reading, Pa., said in a follow-up interview, "They're not getting anything done. They don't seem to be able to come together on anything." She added, "It's all a political thing and they're forgetting the basic needs of the people."

    Representative Rahm Emanuel, the Illinois Democrat who heads the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said, "The American people know instinctively that we have major problems and we've got a Congress that is not attending or dealing with them." As the party in control, Republicans should be held responsible, Mr. Emanuel said, although he added that the 2006 midterms were far too distant for predictions.

    Representative Thomas M. Reynolds of New York, who heads the National Republican Congressional Committee, said the old truism still held: "People are not enamored, maybe, of the institution of Congress, but they love their congressman." He added, "My advice to the policy makers around Congress is to continue to get the work done, and make sure that as we get the work done, people know about it."

    Mr. Bush faces a very resistant public when it comes to his Social Security proposals. He recently embraced a solvency plan that would cushion the lowest income workers from any benefit cuts, but a majority in the survey said they still believed Mr. Bush's general plan would most benefit high income people.

    He has spent months trying to explain the virtues of private investment accounts, but public opinion on them remains very divided. Forty-five percent said those accounts were a good idea, 50 percent a bad idea, the same breakdown found in the survey in January.

    People like the idea that the accounts could be inherited and that they could result in more money for retirement; both arguments boost support for the accounts. But the idea that these accounts could lead to huge amounts of government borrowing - to finance the transition costs - resulted in a very negative response, as did the idea that the accounts would be accompanied by a cut in the guaranteed government benefit.

    Americans also recognized that Mr. Bush has a Social Security plan and the Democrats in Congress do not. A majority said they would like to see the Democrats offer a plan and not simply oppose Mr. Bush's.

    But most said they did not think Mr. Bush's plan for private accounts would do anything for the system's long-term solvency.

    Mr. Bush's approval rating in the Times/CBS Survey is one of a series of recent national polls that registered difficulties for Mr. Bush. The Associated Press-Ipsos Poll found Mr. Bush with a 43 percent approval rating; Gallup with 47 percent, and the Washington Post/ABC News Poll at 48 percent.

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    Fred Backus contributed reporting for this article.
  • academic punk
    Full Member Status

    • Dec 2004
    • 4437

    #2
    yeah yeah yeah yeah...

    first of all, his approval rating was below 50% before the election, and the media tried to play that up as proof that he wasn't going to be re-elected, and look who's still sitting in the executive chair at the Oval Office...

    Second, it's not about what the press says about him today, it's what the history books will say about him twenty years down the road.

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49646

      #3
      Originally posted by academic punk
      yeah yeah yeah yeah...

      first of all, his approval rating was below 50% before the election, and the media tried to play that up as proof that he wasn't going to be re-elected, and look who's still sitting in the executive chair at the Oval Office...

      Second, it's not about what the press says about him today, it's what the history books will say about him twenty years down the road.

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      • Warham
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Mar 2004
        • 14589

        #4
        Well, I know Clinton had a near 60% rating at one time, and I don't think history will judge him very well in twenty years.

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        • LoungeMachine
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jul 2004
          • 32576

          #5
          Originally posted by Warham
          Well, I know Clinton had a near 60% rating at one time, and I don't think history will judge him very well in twenty years.
          You're so fucking predictable it's not even funny


          We're stuck with the SHITTIEST pResident in our lifetime, and all you can do is but Clinton, but Clinton, but Clinton.....

          whatever
          Originally posted by Kristy
          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
          Originally posted by cadaverdog
          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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          • Warham
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Mar 2004
            • 14589

            #6
            No, the point is, ratings at one point in time mean nothing.

            Carter was the shittiest president of our lifetime. At least of mine anyway.
            Last edited by Warham; 06-17-2005, 06:38 PM.

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            • LoungeMachine
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jul 2004
              • 32576

              #7
              Originally posted by Warham
              No, the point is, ratings at one point in time mean nothing.

              Carter was the shittiest president of our lifetime.
              In the immortal words of YOUR Vice-president




              Go Fuck Yourself.



              Carter didnt lie to congress

              Carter didnt lie to the UN

              Carter didnt turn record surplus into record deficit

              Carter didnt start illegal wars


              But Dutch, Poppy, and Junior all hae done MUCH worse

              Your support of this administration is disgusting to me.

              Your hatred of Slick Willie is funny to me.

              I'll take HIS 8 years over Ronnie's or Junior's ANYDAY
              Originally posted by Kristy
              Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
              Originally posted by cadaverdog
              I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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              • LoungeMachine
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jul 2004
                • 32576

                #8
                Originally posted by Warham
                Well, I know Clinton had a near 60% rating at one time, and I don't think history will judge him very well in twenty years.
                He's looking better by the day, especially when compared to your monkey boy
                Originally posted by Kristy
                Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                • Warham
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 14589

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                  He's looking better by the day, especially when compared to your monkey boy
                  He only looks better because he's been hanging out with Poppy Bush the last few months.

                  He said on Letterman last night that he was going up to Maine to visit with Bush the Elder next month. BCE business, you know.

                  'During a recent appearance together in Houston, Clinton noted that Barbara Bush had taken to calling Clinton "son."

                  "I told the Republicans in the audience not to worry, every family has one _ you know, the black sheep, kind of drifts off," he said. "I told them, I said, `This just shows you the lengths at which the Bushes would go to get another president in the family, and I wish I could get them to adopt Hillary."'
                  Last edited by Warham; 06-17-2005, 06:50 PM.

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                  • LoungeMachine
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 32576

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Warham
                    He only looks better because he's been hanging out with Poppy Bush the last few months.
                    Now you're just pushing FORD's buttons, you rabble rouser, you:D


                    What can I say.

                    I liked him better in office.

                    Junyor still doesn't hold a candle to Willie
                    Originally posted by Kristy
                    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                    Originally posted by cadaverdog
                    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 59948

                      #11
                      BCE or not, at least Clinton knew how to have a goddamned domestic agenda, and he left the economy in great shape.
                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • LoungeMachine
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32576

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        BCE or not, at least Clinton knew how to have a goddamned domestic agenda, and he left the economy in great shape.
                        And received his "oral negotiations" from Monica, not Jimmy/Jeff Gannon/Guckert:D

                        Monkey boy's domestic agenda polls lower than snake shit, yet there he is, out campaigning on Air Force One at 25k per hour trying to get people to understand his "social security plan"
                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                        • blueturk
                          Veteran
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 1883

                          #13
                          Originally posted by academic punk


                          Second, it's not about what the press says about him today, it's what the history books will say about him twenty years down the road.
                          And the history books will say that Bush started a war based on lies and looked after the wealthy (and his corporate cronies) while claiming to be a messenger from God.

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                          • LoungeMachine
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 32576

                            #14
                            Originally posted by blueturk
                            And the history books will say that Bush started a war based on lies and looked after the wealthy (and his corporate cronies) while claiming to be a messenger from God.
                            ....who left office in shame in 2006 aboard Marine One waving the peace sign:D
                            Originally posted by Kristy
                            Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                            Originally posted by cadaverdog
                            I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                            • academic punk
                              Full Member Status

                              • Dec 2004
                              • 4437

                              #15
                              Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                              ....who left office in shame in 2006 aboard Marine One waving the peace sign:D
                              God forbid! Do you want to make Brie cry, you scoundrel???

                              Besides, then that would leave Cheney in the President's seat...imagine Mary running naked through the Rose Garden with her life partner while sipping on a Coors!!!

                              BRRRR!!!!

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