Will the U.S. have to give serious consideration to a draft in the next two years?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Redballjets88
yeah bush was in an armed service. how am i an idiot? for liking a president with some morals instead of one that has sex on the job, or a psycho like dean that is so liberal that tanks could come rolling into D.C. and he wouldnt do anything

You mean like "fixing" the intelligence around starting wars? Or outing CIA agents in revenge, possibly threatening their lives? Or how about the slandering of a good man's war record, a real stud that actually served in VIETNAM and insinuating that he fathered a black child when he in fact adopted an orphan.

How moral...

[FORD]

Originally posted by Redballjets88
yeah bush was in an armed service. how am i an idiot? for liking a president with some morals

Morals???

Exactly how "moral" is a drunk driving coke addict who left this country wide open to a terrorist attack (courtesy of his father's "former" employee) and then used that attack as an excuse to launch a PRE-PLANNED war against a nation which was never a threat to the United States.

How moral is it to get 1,700 Americans killed, most of whom are only a year or two older than your idiotic self?

How moral is it to leave 40,000 more 18-19 year old Americans seriously wounded, many of them losing limbs, and for WHAT??

How moral is it to slaughter over 100,000 Iraqi civilians whose only "crime" was being born on the wrong side of the planet?

How moral is THIS??


I think SATAN could claim moral superiority over George Bush Jr at this point.

[Warham]

Bush left this country wide open to a terrorist attack? You act like he took over in 1992 from his father. Who was piloting the boat in the eight years between when Al Queda was planning that attack?

I'd like to see some proof on those 100,000 Iraqi 'civilian' casualties. Before you know it, it'll be 500,000, then 1,000,000. Whatever suits the anti-war agenda.

And if Bush is low on the moral chain, then Lyndon Johnson must be farther down after getting 55,000+ men killed during Vietnam, and probably over 100,000+ more wounded.

[academic punk]

What's funny is part of me wants to seciond Shark's suggestion that people under 18 stay out of this thread...

But then I think about it, and realize the premise of this thread is more relevant to him than anybody else on here...

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Warham
Bush left this country wide open to a terrorist attack? You act like he took over in 1992 from his father. Who was piloting the boat in the eight years between when Al Queda was planning that attack?

Clinton was, silly.

Maybe you remember him? He was the President while nothing on the level of 9/11 ever occurred.

[blueturk]

Originally posted by Warham
At least Bush signed up for the National Guard.

Clinton ran off to England at the first sight of his draft card.

At least Clinton admitted he dodged the draft. Bush dodged the draft with every resource available to his silver spoon fed ass, and tries to act like he didn't. Dudya signed up for the Guard knowing full well he wouldn't see any action unless he really fucked up. Oh hell that's right, he DID fuck up, but still stayed out of Nam. If Bush were in the Guard now, he'd be shitting his pants.

[Warham]

No, he was the president on duty while the little warning salvos like the '93 bombing and the Cole attack took place. Those took place to see how soft we were before 9/11 happened.

[academic punk]

Warham - without googling or checking, do you even know the date of the Cole and the circumstances involved?

[Warham]

Originally posted by blueturk
At least Clinton admitted he dodged the draft. Bush dodged the draft with every resource available to his silver spoon fed ass, and tries to act like he didn't. Dudya signed up for the Guard knowing full well he wouldn't see any actionunless he really fucked up. Oh hell that's right, he DID fuck up, but still stayed out of Nam. If Bush were in the Guard now, he'd be shitting his pants.

So admitting you dodged the draft is actually better than going in and flying a plane around Alabama for two years?

Do tell.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Warham
So admitting you dodged the draft is actually better than going in and flying a plane around Alabama for two years?

Do tell.

The problem is that Bush might have been flying, but it sure wasn't in a plane...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Well, to get back on topic....

I believe that actually the only service that did NOT meet it's recruiting goals is/was the Army...

Yes, the Marines did meet their goals...

And, not surprisingly, the Navy and Air Force are easily meeting their goals....

[blueturk]

Originally posted by Warham
So admitting you dodged the draft is actually better than going in and flying a plane around Alabama for two years?

Do tell.

How much did the military spend on Clinton going to England? Not as much as they spent teaching Bush how to fly...over Alabama. Pretty fucking heroic. Hell, I don't even care anything about Clinton (living in a state that's been shelled by NAFTA), but Bush is a chickenhawk, plain and simple.

[thome]

Why dont your loverly fish wrapps Report on all the dead civilian
iraqis Murdered By their own Bombing nutbag bretheren..you know!! cuz you dont CARE ABOUT they'er LIVES ....its not news to you

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by thome
Why dont your loverly fish wrapps Report on all the dead civilian
iraqis Murdered By their own Bombing nutbag bretheren..you know!! cuz you dont CARE ABOUT they'er LIVES ....its not news to you

Through early morning fog I see

visions of the things to be

the pains that are withheld for me

I realize and I can see...

[REFRAIN]:

that suicide is painless

It brings on many changes

and I can take or leave it if I please.

I try to find a way to make

all our little joys relate

without that ever-present hate

but now I know that it's too late, and...

[REFRAIN]

The game of life is hard to play

I'm gonna lose it anyway

The losing card I'll someday lay

so this is all I have to say.

[REFRAIN]

The only way to win is cheat

And lay it down before I'm beat

and to another give my seat

for that's the only painless feat.

[REFRAIN]

The sword of time will pierce our skins

It doesn't hurt when it begins

But as it works its way on in

The pain grows stronger...watch it grin, but...

[REFRAIN]

A brave man once requested me

to answer questions that are key

is it to be or not to be

and I replied 'oh why ask me?'

[REFRAIN]

'Cause suicide is painless

it brings on many changes

and I can take or leave it if I please.

...and you can do the same thing if you please.




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[Warham]

You should post some of your lyrics in here, Lounge.