No Mouth, No Guts

[floyd95]

The second election the dems fucked up with weak candidate in kerry going against a war time president.

[Cathedral]

Anyone who believes that either party has a message is dreaming.
The Conservatives lost me, the Democrats could never appeal to me.......I have no viable options to choose from that ever had or have a chance at getting into the White House, and i know so little about the Green Party i couldn't make an educated decision right now if my life depended on it.

Stalemate!!!

[floyd95]

good point! only when the whole system breaks down will there be an alternative. then maybe an even worse alternative. that's when the likes of a hitler come about.

[Big Train]

Let me just say this: I don't want to debate AGAIN why or why not republicans are evil, because actual progress may be considered a crime.

All I know is that FORMER gov. Davis works in my building now for a high price law firm selling us out to the Chinese, pointing out those they might want to grease. Unocal came on the field of play for a reason.

BTW Ford, Davis was not the "fall guy". Enron knew they were fucking California good and hard and they that spineless wonder was absolutely helpless to change it. All his stroke got sold to the unions and Indians, fucking our economy for at LEAST a decade, unless some Republican can work miracles over the intervening years cleaning up HIS mess.

[Big Train]

And I agree that the Dems should focus on themselves at a ground level. Who knows if the DNC support can get a sheriff elected on their home turf anymore.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Big Train


fucking our economy for at LEAST a decade, unless some Republican can work miracles over the intervening years cleaning up HIS mess.

Didn't you elect a Republican Gropernator ?

Why can't Conan fix it?

[Big Train]

If you realized the SCOPE of how fucked Davis made us, above and beyond energy, you'd realize it would take multiple years, which HE acknowledged before being shown the door.

Ah-nold is doing a remarkably admirable job here in Kuli-fornia cutting through his bullshit. Cutting his hacks and unions absoultely insane contracts, making the Indians pay up and getting costs in line. Of course the usual liberal bitches are whining, but I actually measure his effectiveness by how loud they scream. They are screaming PLENTY loud right now..

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Let me just say this: I don't want to debate AGAIN why or why not republicans are evil, because actual progress may be considered a crime.

All I know is that FORMER gov. Davis works in my building now for a high price law firm selling us out to the Chinese, pointing out those they might want to grease. Unocal came on the field of play for a reason.

BTW Ford, Davis was not the "fall guy". Enron knew they were fucking California good and hard and they that spineless wonder was absolutely helpless to change it. All his stroke got sold to the unions and Indians, fucking our economy for at LEAST a decade, unless some Republican can work miracles over the intervening years cleaning up HIS mess.

The President you sycophant for is selling off America to CHINA, but you don't seem to mind at all BT.

[thome]

Re: No Mouth, No Guts

[QUOTE]Originally posted by FORD
No Mouth, No Guts

July 5, 2005
By Nancy Greggs

For years now we've been hearing about how a bunch of Muslim radicals have hijacked the religion of Islam, and are reshaping it into something totally opposite to its true tenets. Well, the same thing has happened here with the Republican party, and the irony is that everyone seems to know it except the Republicans themselves.

You remember the Grand Old Party, don't you? They were the party of fiscal responsibility, states rights, less government interference in personal issues, and a strong military. So where are they now?

This president is spending the country's money like a drunken sailor, the deficit is out of control, and the country is in debt up to its eyeballs. And yet we've heard nary a word from the GOP citizenry. No demonstrations outside the White House. No Internet petitions. Mum's the word.

Now, I'm not saying that the Republicans never open their big mouths anymore. They'll still show up at the odd anti-war demonstration, yelling about liberal cowards who don't support the disaster in Iraq.

But we haven't been seeing them lining up in front of the enlistment office, have we? They say they're behind this war a hundred percent – but obviously with the caveat that some other mother's son does the actual heavy lifting, while they put yet another "Love It or Leave It" bumper sticker on the back of the pick-up.

Yeah, they've still got lots to say about supporting the troops. Too bad they didn't speak up when this administration cut benefits to military families and vets – a concept that, in the good old days, would have had every last Republican screaming from the rooftops.

The Terri Schiavo fiasco was a classic example of Republicans allowing their elected officials to fly in the face of their long-held beliefs, without so much as a whimper. Where were those GOPers of old, who upheld the sanctity of states rights? Where were those Republicans who have traditionally vowed to go to their graves before allowing the federal government to interfere in their personal family decisions?

The Republicans have always proudly pointed to their base, the evangelical Christians. You know - people who would give you a speech, anywhere, anytime – about the need for good Christian values in American life? Too bad they all lost their tongues when this president, like a latter-day Pontius Pilate, publicly washed his hands of the blood of detainees in U.S. custody as they were tortured, or rendered to countries where others will do his dirty work for him. That's not only un-Republican, it's downright un-Christian. You'd think they'd be ranting twice as loud as usual. And yet, it's their silence that is so deafening.

While I realize that the Republicans are never going to support many of the ideals of my party, I am truly baffled by their obvious unwillingness to stand up for their own.

Why are the streets empty? Why are the Republicans not marching en masse, demanding a return to fiscal sanity, strong economic growth, American jobs for American workers – you know, the very things their party has traditionally stood for?

Well, as the Administration pointed out recently, I guess it's a matter of different philosophies - and the difference seems clear. While Democrats still stand up for their party's traditionally held ideals, the Republicans cower down in their spider-holes, totally oblivious to the fact that the GOP now espouses the very things they were dead set against before Bush and his cronies started running the country, and their party, into the ground.

So farewell, GOP, you proud and patriotic Republicans of old, you party of Lincoln. We disagreed with you, argued with you, fought with you; but that was back in the days when you were a worthy opponent. Now you're just a bunch of mindless sheep, being led by the nose away from the very ideals you used to uphold so valiantly.

So go back to your couches and tell yourselves that your party is still on-message, when it's more than obvious to all of us that you don't even remember what the message once was.

link [/QUOTE
Optomist you are Hmmmmm yessss? Allways hopeing for the best
lookin' for the good in things seeing further than your nose yessss Hmmmm... now thats funny?

[Big Train]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
The President you sycophant for is selling off America to CHINA, but you don't seem to mind at all BT.

Thanks for the 4 dollar insult. I appreciate when you bring your A-game.

I like how NOTHING around here is ever mutually exclusive. I have SEEN with my own eyes what Davis is doing. I ride the elevator with my lunch in hand, while he is talking to Chinese businessmen. Don't tell me he isn't selling us out.

And I won't get into intellectual property laws, which Stalin might get on my case for, which is what TRULY is selling us out to China more than anything. It's coming to an industry near you soon. Well not yours Nick, but the parents of your kids.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Big Train


I have SEEN with my own eyes what Davis is doing. I ride the elevator with my lunch in hand, while he is talking to Chinese businessmen. Don't tell me he isn't selling us out.

So, if that meets your definition of "selling out", then what would you call this

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Thanks for the 4 dollar insult. I appreciate when you bring your A-game.

I like how NOTHING around here is ever mutually exclusive. I have SEEN with my own eyes what Davis is doing. I ride the elevator with my lunch in hand, while he is talking to Chinese businessmen. Don't tell me he isn't selling us out.

And I won't get into intellectual property laws, which Stalin might get on my case for, which is what TRULY is selling us out to China more than anything. It's coming to an industry near you soon. Well not yours Nick, but the parents of your kids.

Really? Why don't you go down to the Port of LA and compare the vast number of goods we're importing to the small amount of natural resources we're exporting (to be refined into goods shipped back here). Then you can try to blame it all on a Democrat you don't like. It's been fucking happening to "an industry near you" for over ten years now. You didn't give a shit unless it began to hit you in the pocket book, because that's all the US is to you and your like, a commodity! Spare me your moralizing horseshit, you could give a shit when when you smelled smoke, you only cry fire now, when your ass is burning. It's too little too late. Typical self-aggrandizing short-sightedness, well, you do work in the record industry after all.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Spare me your moralizing horseshit, you could give a shit when when you smelled smoke, you only cry fire now, when your ass is burning. It's too little too late.

That's funny. Goin back to the old school, eh Nick?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
That's funny. Goin back to the old school, eh Nick?

It's later than you think.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Really? Why don't you go down to the Port of LA and compare the vast number of goods we're importing to the small amount of natural resources we're exporting (to be refined into goods shipped back here). Then you can try to blame it all on a Democrat you don't like. It's been fucking happening to "an industry near you" for over ten years now. You didn't give a shit unless it began to hit you in the pocket book, because that's all the US is to you and your like, a commodity! Spare me your moralizing horseshit, you could give a shit when when you smelled smoke, you only cry fire now, when your ass is burning. It's too little too late. Typical self-aggrandizing short-sightedness, well, you do work in the record industry after all.

Ten years huh? That was when CLINTON was in office. What did he do to stop this?

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