No Mouth, No Guts

[Big Train]

Originally posted by FORD
So, if that meets your definition of "selling out", then what would you call this

My definition is ACTUALLY being in the elevator and ACTUALLY hearing them discuss politicians they should be making appointments with..not posting random pics with accusations.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Warham
Yes, I, an evil Republican, helped this country become hated by France, Germany and Russia!

How could I and 54,000,000 Americans be so vile and despicable?

One of life's mysteries.

Probably has somehting to do with your breath...

[Big Train]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Really? Why don't you go down to the Port of LA and compare the vast number of goods we're importing to the small amount of natural resources we're exporting (to be refined into goods shipped back here). Then you can try to blame it all on a Democrat you don't like. It's been fucking happening to "an industry near you" for over ten years now. You didn't give a shit unless it began to hit you in the pocket book, because that's all the US is to you and your like, a commodity! Spare me your moralizing horseshit, you could give a shit when when you smelled smoke, you only cry fire now, when your ass is burning. It's too little too late. Typical self-aggrandizing short-sightedness, well, you do work in the record industry after all.

Fuck, Nick, you are fucking amazing. For starters, I NEVER said that the home team didn't have people who are fucking us in trade either, did I? Did I? Being Major Sensitive that you are, you assumed. You also assume that I only care about my own industry. Like I don't have a nicely diversified portfolio or family and friends I love working in other industries. Because I did not explicitly start a thread on the issue (although I comment on it every time the issue comes up), I only care about my business. I have been concerned about it for a LONG fucking time, but in this time, with tech advances, intellectual property is being raped left and right.

Yes, I HAVE seen the ports. You see merchandise coming in. I see hijacked intellectual property being sold BACK to us.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Big Train

I see hijacked intellectual property being sold BACK to us.

Tell it to Muddy Waters and Willie Dixon, bro...

[Big Train]

Wish I could. I wish my Blues Foundation check did more every year as well..

[Nickdfresh]

Re: Re: No Mouth, No Guts

Originally posted by thome
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Optomist you are Hmmmmm yessss? Allways hopeing for the best
lookin' for the good in things seeing further than your nose yessss Hmmmm... now thats funny?

Dude! Learn to fucking quote please!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Ten years huh? That was when CLINTON was in office. What did he do to stop this?

One down, nineteen more to go.

Yes, you are correct, actually, I'd say it started during REAGAN, or at least the first BUSH Admin. But CLINTON was a big part of it nevertheless.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Fuck, Nick, you are fucking amazing. For starters, I NEVER said that the home team didn't have people who are fucking us in trade either, did I? Did I?

No, but you seem rather fixated on only the Democratic side of the house when it comes to trade issues. Gray DAVIS may have been a douche, but how's ARNOLD doing these days? I hear not so good.

Being Major Sensitive that you are, you assumed. You also assume that I only care about my own industry.

You only notice it once it hits your industry. the signs were there long before this. In the clothing, electronics, and toy industries. And I wouldn't be throwing the "major sensitive" tag around Mr. MP3 bitchy, bleeding heart.

Like I don't have a nicely diversified portfolio or family and friends I love working in other industries. Because I did not explicitly start a thread on the issue (although I comment on it every time the issue comes up), I only care about my business. I have been concerned about it for a LONG fucking time, but in this time, with tech advances, intellectual property is being raped left and right.

I agree that the property and intellectual rights are being raped by the Chinese pricks. But, quite frankly, this was very predictable. It started long ago in other industries, and my comments were more more broadly targeted rather than directed at you soley. Right now it's the music and film industry, next stop will be cars. The Chinese have a bunch of models set to roll into North America.

Yes, I HAVE seen the ports. You see merchandise coming in. I see hijacked intellectual property being sold BACK to us.

Yes, my point is that is that's ALL you see. You seem to fail to notice the ultra cheap TV's and DVD players that have idled TV factories in America and have taken our jobs long before now. Even though the intellectual properties of those products were created in China.

[Big Train]

Interesting....

Arnold, as I said yesterday, is doing quite well. Lib bitches are screaming quite loud and he will eventually get the comprimises he seeks from the unions, the indians and creditors. I KNOW you haven't heard about that...there would have to be a paper around here that would tell you that. They prefer to preach on page one about other things.

Again, your assumptions on me are AMAZING. How did you know what I was doing a decade ago and what I cared about? Have you been spying on me Nick?

I have cared for a long time (for reasons in my last post) about a variety of industries. It actually hit my industry late in my awareness. For example, licensing and merch, which I have investments in outside the music business, have been getting nicked for over a decade. My Callaway, Nike and other merch stocks have taken huge hits too. Not to mention some good friends of mine have had to deal with a lot of extra stress about keeping their jobs or finding new ones after the cutbacks and whatnot. But you knew all that already, didn't you Nick?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Interesting....

Arnold, as I said yesterday, is doing quite well. Lib bitches are screaming quite loud and he will eventually get the comprimises he seeks from the unions, the indians and creditors. I KNOW you haven't heard about that...there would have to be a paper around here that would tell you that. They prefer to preach on page one about other things.

Well, I am not a student of California politics, but I have heard that ARNY's approval ratings are not all that high, and I hear a few conservative homos are yelling for his head as well.

Again, your assumptions on me are AMAZING. How did you know what I was doing a decade ago and what I cared about? Have you been spying on me Nick?

Um, now you're getting weird, I never claimed that. I was merely making the point that you, like many Americans, only care about issues that hit close to home. In essence, I was accusing you of being short sighted in worrying about the CHINESE. Some of us were worried when they rolled tanks into Tiananmen Square during the Summer of Chinese hate in 1989. I guess I'm a little ahead of y'all. I did not need proof of their flouting of copyright law to know that they were ruthless cunts bent on achieving total control.

I have cared for a long time (for reasons in my last post) about a variety of industries. It actually hit my industry late in my awareness. For example, licensing and merch, which I have investments in outside the music business, have been getting nicked for over a decade. My Callaway, Nike and other merch stocks have taken huge hits too. Not to mention some good friends of mine have had to deal with a lot of extra stress about keeping their jobs or finding new ones after the cutbacks and whatnot. But you knew all that already, didn't you Nick?

I never claimed you didn't care. but you didn't notice, nor did you really go out of your way to head off the impending problems. And I could be wrong, but I think I've seen you defending "outsourcing" on this board, so yes, you do only care when it hits close to home (i.e. your friends). This shit doesn't come out of a vacuum, so if you expect anyone to have any special empathy for your industry when I sense you have little for any other you don't have much contact with is a bit much to ask, is it not? Thanks for your sympathy on my job situation BTW,, I'm very touched.

[Big Train]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh

You only notice it once it hits your industry. the signs were there long before this. In the clothing, electronics, and toy industries. And I wouldn't be throwing the "major sensitive" tag around Mr. MP3 bitchy, bleeding heart.

OK, I"M Getting weird. Did you not just say this?

[Big Train]

Nick , I HONESTLY don't give a fuck to talk about my business or career anymore, PLEASE, PLEASE stop using it to try to get me with an insult or to draw out some odd conclusion.

Your point is you THINK I don't care, don't know, don't believe, don't act in ways you think are correct. When 1. they are your opinion and 2. you have no real concept of what I do.

I discuss things with you in small increments and you get a view. It's incorrect to draw a big picture based on little slices of what you know about me. I don't claim to know you or what you do. I don't discuss anything about you other than your political views and at worst call you a lib. I never get into "Fucking stupid teachers" and "Lazy fucks who only want a pay raise" because I don't believe it's true and I don't care to get your personally. Even if I did, I still wouldn't. Shows a lack of imagination and ability to make your point.

[Warham]

Liberals like to assume alot of things.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Nick , I HONESTLY don't give a fuck to talk about my business or career anymore, PLEASE, PLEASE stop using it to try to get me with an insult or to draw out some odd conclusion.

Your point is you THINK I don't care, don't know, don't believe, don't act in ways you think are correct. When 1. they are your opinion and 2. you have no real concept of what I do.

I discuss things with you in small increments and you get a view. It's incorrect to draw a big picture based on little slices of what you know about me. I don't claim to know you or what you do. I don't discuss anything about you other than your political views and at worst call you a lib. I never get into "Fucking stupid teachers" and "Lazy fucks who only want a pay raise" because I don't believe it's true and I don't care to get your personally. Even if I did, I still wouldn't. Shows a lack of imagination and ability to make your point.

Yeah, I guess that fact that you bring up intellectual, copyright law in nearly everyone of your recent posts here has nothing to do with the subject. That's the only reason why I comment. And I never really had a pretense of knowing what you do, just your intellectual property/copyright law monomania. You'd think that was the only problem, or it never could have been foreseen. And if you actually read my post, you'd find that I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH 90% of what YOU are saying regarding CHINA. But it's not the only problem, nor is it at all new phenomena! That's all I'm getting at brother. I never said you don't care, I think you do, but it's a much wider issue than that. That's my only point.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Liberals like to assume alot of things.

So by definition you must be a "liberal" now?