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  • Hardrock69
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2005
    • 21897

    Former Vietnam Combat and Commercial Pilot Firm Believer 9/11 Was Inside Job

    By Greg Szymanski

    There was no fooling former Air Force and commercial pilot Russ Wittenberg the morning of 9/11. He knew it was an inside job from the get-go, knowing the ‘big boys’ were up to the same dirty tricks they played in the Kennedy assassination and Pearl Harbor.

    The government may have fooled millions of Americans with its cockamamie official story, but the former fighter pilot who flew over 100 combat missions in Vietnam and who sat for 35 years in the cockpit for Pan Am and United, wasn’t one of them.

    Now, almost four years later, Wittenberg is still shaking his head in disbelief more than ever, saying the country he loved and fought so bravely 40 years ago has fallen in the deep, dark and sinister hands of fascist leaders who are quickly turning America into a military state.

    Although back in the beginning he seemed like a lone wolf in the hen house, he’s noticed, especially in the last six months, more Americans waking up to the cold reality that the U.S. government staged 9/1l, started an illegal war in Iraq and basically is criminally responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of innocent lives here and abroad.

    Even though it’s a hard pill for some to swallow, Wittenberg says Americans need to “wake up and wake up fast,” holding those in government responsible even though it may mean a total makeover of the American political system.

    And for these despicable actions now taking place in the name of freedom, the former F-100 Vietnam fighter pilot, who knows what it’s like to be in harms way, directed a little military jab toward the Commander and Chief, saying: “Oh, why doesn’t he wake up and just fall on his sword.”

    Talking about his obvious disgust for the Bush administration, he bundles 9/11 into the neo con’s “neat little contrived war package,” saying it was the lynch pin needed to usher in a state of constant fear, a climate of war and a perfect setting for the unconstitutional Patriot Act and eventual martial law.

    “If you would have told me back in the 1970s this was going to happen to America, I would have never imagined it. It’s just not the same country I grew up in as all our Constitutional freedoms are being stripped away right before our very eyes,” said Wittenberg in a telephone conversation from his home in Carefree Az., a picturesque and serene place on the map near Scottsdale.

    “The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple. I also thoroughly went over the recent 9/11 Commission report, finding about 110 outright lies and numerous other half-truths and omissions in an obvious cover-up of not only the truth but of a criminal investigation.

    “Condaleeza Rice lied through her teeth when she testified and if I would have had her on the stand for 10 minutes, I would have had her in tears.”

    Concerning 9/11, Wittenberg knew right off the bat the hijackers - who couldn’t handle a Piper Cub - couldn’t fly the ‘big birds” he flew for so many years, knowing the planes were also incapable of performing such high speed maneuvers as the government claimed.

    He also knew the possibility of jet fuel bringing down the towers made no sense. In fact, he knew the whole 9/11 story made about as much sense as crossing the Atlantic in a row boat.

    And right after 9/11 when it was unpopular and considered almost treasonous to question the government, Wittenberg became the first commercial airline pilot with experience flying the jets used in 9/11 to publicly denounce the government story.

    Although speaking publicly on many occasions about the fictitious government account of 9/11, it wasn’t until Sept. 16, 2004, his controversial remarks aired on Wing TV, sparking a heated debate among pilots and others clinging to the flimsy government account.

    Knowing the flight characteristics of the “big birds” like the back of his hand, Wittenberg convincingly argued there was absolutely no possibility that Flight 77could have “descended 7,000 feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 270 degree banked turn before crashing into the Pentagon’s first floor wall without touching the lawn.”

    Wittenberg claimed the high speed maneuver would have surely stalled the jetliner sending it into a nose dive, adding it was “totally impossible for an amateur who couldn’t even fly a Cessna to maneuver the jetliner in such a highly professional manner, something Wittenberg said he couldn’t do with 35 years of commercial jetliner experience.

    “For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible – there is not one chance in a thousand,” said Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727’s to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737’s through 767’s it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying.

    “I had to be trained to use the new, computerized systems. I just couldn’t jump in and fly one,” he added.

    Finding more inconsistencies with the government story about Flight 77, Wittenberg recalled the recent statements made by a flight controller on an ABC 20/20 television program three months ago.

    “If you listened to her carefully only an experienced pilot probably would have known that what she was saying was scripted,” said Wittenberg. “Remember the transponder was turned off on Flight 77 and when this occurs, all the particular flight data like air speed and even the plane’s flight identification goes with it.

    “All that’s left on the controller’s screen is a green blip, that’s it. But here you have this flight controller on 20/20 saying she was tracking the flight with specific air speed and other coordinates which was totally impossible once the transponder was turned off. How would she even have known the flight number? The whole story is a pack of lies and this is just another example.”

    And from the moment Wittenberg called attention to the lies, he’s been in the cross hairs defending his story, defending it by using a little bit of psychology, a lot of history and asking critics to answer questions before drawing conclusions.

    “I’ve learned over the years, it’s hard to change anybody’s mind when they really aren’t listening,” said Wittenberg. “So, I just decided to fire back a lot of questions to those people who believe the government story.

    “I ask them explain how Building No.7 collapsed? I ask them why haven’t the “black boxes” been recovered? I ask them to explain how jet fuel – fuel that burns cold not hot -- could bring down two high rise structures when more than 90% of the fuel on board burned outside the buildings?”

    And Wittenberg has hundreds of other tough questions ready, but said it’s also important to put 9/11 and the Iraq war in a historical prospective.

    “Is 9/11 and the phony war on terror any different or more serious than Pearl Harbor and World War II?,” asks Wittenberg. “The bottom line is all wars are contrived and it is these rich bankers and financiers who have pulled the strings and who have put these contrived events like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor into motion.”

    Turning to the recent London bombings, Wittenberg said he’s tired of the “talking heads’ trying to analyze how to counter terror when “the real cause and effect issues” about the root problems with America and the world are being ignored.

    “It’s simply bizarre. Maybe our one-sided foreign policy that keeps getting us into all this trouble around the world should be seriously questioned,” said Wittenberg. “If we are really fighting terror, why are our borders just to the south completely wide open? It’s a joke.”

    Claiming the entire neo con scenario now playing out in America and around the world is based on the attempt to establish a one world government controlled by a select few, he said it’s difficult to figure out their true motives, adding he can only offer an educated guess based on what he’s studied and read.

    “Power corrupts, money isn’t enough and these people want total control,” added Wittenberg. “These elites actually think they are better than everybody else and basically want power and control over the diminishing resources by creating a one world government.

    Regarding another terror attack on American soil coming on the heels of the London bombings, he said “it’s not if but when,” claiming the unconstitutional Patriot Act is waiting in the wings to silence those Americans who may not fall in line with the government’s eventual takeover.

    “They passed it for a reason. The problem with our two party system is that the same group of gangsters controls both parties,” said Wittenberg, who didn’t vote for Bush or Kerry in the last election and was the former Arizona state chairman for Pat Buchanon’s failed presidential run in 2000.

    Although Wittenberg remains politically active and abreast of world affairs, he has left the political forefront, trying instead to raise public awareness about the danger of the neo con agenda.

    “More people are listening now, but it doesn’t surprise me that still a lot of people just don’t want to get involved, thinking things are just fine in America,” he added. “These people are perfectly content to play golf, watch the ballgame and not get involved.”

    Wittenberg, who retired the day before 9/11 having a strange and unexplainable premonition, said high gas prices have led him to sell his private plane, saying it was getting too expensive to even “fly for fun’ anymore.

    For more informative articles, go to www.arcticbeacon.com where donations are accepted to keep the news flowing.

    Last edited by Hardrock69; 07-18-2005, 03:32 AM.
  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    #2
    Geez, how many of these moronic threads do we have to put up with? Consider the source, I guess.

    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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    • thome
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Mar 2005
      • 6678

      #3
      69 is micheal moore !jeez

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49567

        #4
        Originally posted by thome
        69 is micheal moore !jeez
        Moore never said 9/11 was "an inside job."

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        • thome
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Mar 2005
          • 6678

          #5
          Yeah Huh.

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          • DLR'sCock
            Crazy Ass Mofo
            • Jan 2004
            • 2937

            #6
            The problem with our nature and how we were raised as good little american girls and boys is that the idea of the great betrayl is most likely as psychologically damaging to the self as is the act against us by a loved one, parent or relative. Denial is alwasys easy, until it's too late...


            There are millions of those who will betray you, but that's ok, beacuse most humans are weak and small minded clinging to small concepts and ideas of their own self importance, it's far too easy and to easy to see, but it is far to difficult for many to accept and emabrace.

            Hope is never lost, God loves you more than you know, and there is always the future, and on and on the cycle repeats itself till each of us get's it right..........

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 59651

              #7
              How typical of Busheep.....

              Here you have a conservative pilot with 35 years experience in commercial airlines telling you that the official BCE cover story is physically impossible and yet you choose to remain in denial.

              What reason would this man have to lie? He's not a "liberal". As if that should matter, but to some of you it's the deciding factor for everything.

              Face reality. The BCE lied to you. Repeatedly.

              Now what are you gonna do about it?
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • Guitar Shark
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2004
                • 7579

                #8
                Originally posted by FORD
                Face reality.
                LOL, that's rich coming from you, big guy.

                But let me turn your question around -- what are YOU going to do about it Dave?
                ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                • knuckleboner
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2927

                  #9
                  Re: Former Vietnam Combat and Commercial Pilot Firm Believer 9/11 Was Inside Job

                  ok, i really do apologize for trying to insert some level of logic into this crackpot's theories.

                  but seriously, he doesn't have ANY inside information. even this (extremely slanted) article only lists his conjecture. he THINKS new pilots shouldn't be able to make complicated maneuvers. he THINKS that jet fuel shouldn't burn hot enough to weaken steel supporting beams.

                  mind you, the actual science has been made many times over. but i WILL address this point:


                  saying it was the lynch pin needed to usher in a state of constant fear, a climate of war and a perfect setting for the unconstitutional Patriot Act and eventual martial law.

                  ahhh...one of my favorite concepts. the "unconstitutional patriot act." anybody think this guy has read the patriot act? i'm going to play washed-up airline pilot and blindly GUESS he hasn't.

                  (i have, cover to cover. and the hardest part is that the majority of it isn't entirely new law, it merely changes a word or phrase in existing law that you then have to reference.)

                  and from my reading (yes, definitely not definitive; i'm not a judge!:D) there is virtually nothing in the patriot act that's clearly unconstitutional.

                  that's a buzz phrase for the opponents to try and sound bite attack it.


                  mind you, that doesn't mean i like it. the problem that i saw is that it allows many things to go through secretive checks. on their face, not unconstitutional, but the problem is abuse. if people abuse the law it is much more difficult to discover. and when you're talking about searches and warrants and other invasive procedures, even if i trust the government, i'd rather there be significant checks against the possibility of abuse.

                  it may be bad law. but it's not necessarily unconstitutional. unless mr. wittenberg is also a constitutional scholar, in addition to being a chemical engineer...

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                  • Warham
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 14589

                    #10
                    So what? A guy with 35 years of experience says it didn't happen like the official record. For every one of him, there's a hundred who say it DID go down like the record dictates.

                    It's a non-story.

                    Next!

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                    • bobgnote
                      Banned
                      • May 2005
                      • 627

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Warham
                      So what? A guy with 35 years of experience says it didn't happen like the official record. For every one of him, there's a hundred who say it DID go down like the record dictates.

                      It's a non-story.

                      Next!
                      Except for circumstances of FRAUD, prevalent, including the certainty in any adversarial factions, PARTICULARLY AL QUEDA, that planners could anticipate:
                      1. enough contained heat to remove the trade center structures,
                      2. not enough Bldg.7 effect is explained, to show how the collapse of that close structure was like a precise demolition,
                      3. noting all the morons into Jacko and Ed VH, who aren't really much for actual composition skills, but packing plenty of corporate ripoff PUNK, Al Queda and other incited factions can plainly see that the events coinciding with California's long-term power deals and the bursts of New York media anti-skills hiding their fatal fund-sucking inflation, attackers on 9/11/01 knew to attack not just on 9/11 to commemorate Black Semptember and black culture re cops in NYC, since all the STUPIDSHITS were blocking how the California, Nevada, and other inflationary, illegal power deals signed and effected by Summer 2001 would cause a progressive funding drain,
                      4. and with funding drained and costs increased worldwide, over four years, FOUR is a really happening number, not just because of hottie Jessica, but also because YOUR SECURITY IS FANTASTIC, ie. non-existent, actually, and you are insensitive to your own frauds,
                      5. THERE AIN'T NO CURE FOR THE SUMMERTIME BLUES, Ed fans, when that funding dries up. BOOOMx4, death from LEEDS, whoareYOU?
                      Last edited by bobgnote; 07-18-2005, 05:12 PM.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 59651

                        #12
                        Bottom line is that if burning jet fuel melted steel, there would be no such thing as an internal combustion engine.
                        Eat Us And Smile

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                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • Guitar Shark
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 7579

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                          But let me turn your question around -- what are YOU going to do about it Dave?
                          bump
                          ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                          Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                          Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                          • BigBadBrian
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10625

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            Bottom line is that if burning jet fuel melted steel, there would be no such thing as an internal combustion engine.
                            Two words...controlled combustion.

                            Talk to an engineer or metallurgist shippy.
                            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 59651

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                              Two words...controlled combustion.

                              Talk to an engineer or metallurgist shippy.
                              Trick question. And your answer is correct.

                              But what does "controlled combustion" consist of?

                              It's basically the ability to control the mixture of fuel & air that is burned. So if more air is introduced into the mixture, the fire does indeed burn hotter. But it also burns faster. Which is why your car runs better on higher octane fuel.

                              There were people standing in the hole caused by the first plane crash a half hour or so after the plane had hit. Obviously, if a 2000 degree fire was still burning inside, no human being would be able to survive on that floor, yet these people were clearly there, hoping for a rescue. Which could only mean the fire was out.

                              And that's first plane. The second one's fuel burned mostly outside the tower, due to the apparent pilot error which caused the plane to hit closer to the corner, and not the center of the floor as the first plane had.

                              So without a carburetor to control the air/fuel mixture, the jet fuel was burned up quickly. It was long gone before the towers collapsed.
                              Eat Us And Smile

                              Cenk For America 2024!!

                              Justice Democrats


                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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