Poll: Many Doubt White House Cooperation

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by academic punk
That was John Ashcroft.

No, no, not when they started locking up brown people and throwing away the key.

I mean when they were trying to get a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.

I always found it particularly distateful that they would change a document that symbolized freedom and use it to take away people's freedom. Not that it was the first time.

[Warham]

You guys need to settle down about Karl Rove. He's not the reason your party has been out of touch with America since 1994. I also know losing the last two elections can cause seething rage and hatred to possess your mind. Talking about him getting fucked in the ass in prison is not healthy.

Let's just sit back, have a beer, and relax..

:D

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
Talking about him getting fucked in the ass in prison is not healthy.

No, it's Karma

I've HAD IT UP TO HERE with your whole administration

Is KKKarl the WORST offender? Hell no.

But watching him go down will help

Fuck him

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Warham
Talking about him getting fucked in the ass in prison is not healthy.

Let's just sit back, have a beer, and relax..

:D

How unsettling is it to read warham writing "getting fucked in the ass" in one sentence, and then in the very next one invite us all to have a beer and relax?

[Warham]

Some xanax may help.

[Warham]

Originally posted by academic punk
How unsettling is it to read warham writing "getting fucked in the ass" in one sentence, and then in the very next one invite us all to have a beer and relax?

Tell Lounge to stop talking about his fantasies, and then we can move on.

[academic punk]

Originally posted by Warham
Tell Lounge to stop talking about his fantasies, and then we can move on.

Fair enough.

(Though, come to think of it, between the two of you - you with your "Clinton, blowjob, etc etc" and LM with his "Karl, ass-fucking"...

you both seem to have...interesting...obsessions.

I'm just saying.)
(Then again, who am i to talk, between the turtle jokes and the jesterstar comments???)

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
OD,

They do investigations all the time, even when it's something frivolous, just to waste taxpayer dollars.

And you believe that the government never wastes resources?

Use some common sense!

You mean like the Blow Job Secret Police?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
Tell Lounge to stop talking about his fantasies, and then we can move on.

Yes, I fantasize about KKKarl Rove getting sodomized by his cellmate

and Rummy taking on fire in a '92 Explorer with garbage cans for armor

and Alberto Gonzalez being "water boarded"



Karma, it's a bitch


Now your fantasy tends to revolve around watching Clinton getting a hummer


To each his own

[Nickdfresh]

This is the topic on ABC's NIGHTLINE.

[LoungeMachine]

More Tepid Polling News For GWB


1. Generally speaking, would you say things in this country are heading in the right direction, or are they off on the wrong track?

Right direction, 36 percent ; Wrong track, 59 percent: Not sure, 5 percent



2. Overall, do you approve, disapprove or have mixed feelings about the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?

Approve, 42 percent ; Disapprove, 56 percent; Mixed feelings, 1 percent; Not sure, 2 percent



3. And when it comes to handling the economy, do you approve or disapprove or have mixed feelings about the way George W. Bush is handling that issue?


Approve, 42 percent; Disapprove, 56 percent; Mixed feelings, 2 percent; Not sure, percent.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
How dumb do they think we are?

I think you and the liberal crowd are amazingly stupid.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I think you and the liberal crowd are amazingly stupid.

We're not the ones self-destructing right now.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I think you and the liberal crowd are amazingly stupid.

amazingly, no less


Hope we can find our way to the polls in '06

[LoungeMachine]

Boston.com

I. Lewis Libby’s involvement represents an even more insidious abuse of power. The Bush administration is being accused of leaking the name of Valerie Plame in retribution for a New York Times op-ed article written by her husband, diplomat Joseph Wilson. Wilson wrote that he never found any evidence in a 2002 trip to Africa, contrary to claims made by President Bush in his 2003 State of the Union address, that Saddam Hussein was procuring uranium from Niger for nuclear weapons.

Bush would invade Iraq over weapons of mass destruction that were never found. But Libby, Cheney, and the other influential right-wing hard-liners, such as Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Armitage, Richard Perle, and Douglas Feith, saw their dreams come true. Back in the administration of the senior President Bush, Cheney was defense secretary and Libby and Wolfowitz were two of his aides who, after the first Gulf War left Saddam in power, drafted a document advocating ‘‘preemptive’’ war against possible threats.

They said the United States should be ‘‘postured to act independently when collective action cannot be orchestrated.’’

Such provocation was kept at bay when President Clinton beat Bush in 1992 and took office for eight years. But when the junior Bush became president in 2000, the hard right on foreign policy took the helm. They used the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11 as an excuse for invading Iraq, even though President Bush’s own 9/11 Commission found no tie between Saddam and 9/11.

Libby was in the thick of whipping up fear over the thinnest of evidence. The level to which Libby and Cheney stooped to get their war was highlighted by the momentous presentation of Saddam’s ‘‘threat’’ before the United Nations Security Council by then Secretary of State Colin Powell. Powell gave a presentation six weeks before the war where he said, ‘‘every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions.’’ Those assertions resulted in grudging acceptance of the war from many Democrats.

Virtually all of Powell’s solid sources fell apart when the United States turned Iraq upside down, killing thousands of Iraqi civilians in the process. He would have looked much worse had he listened to everything Libby and Cheney tried to feed him. It was Cheney’s staff who wrote the first draft of Powell’s UN speech. It was Libby who suggested, in strategy meetings at the White House, playing up every possible, conceivable threat of Saddam — with the emphasis on the word ‘‘conceive.’’

A US News and World Report story in the summer of 2003 quoted a senior administration official as saying Libby’s presentation ‘‘was over the top and ran the gamut from Al Qaeda to human rights to weapons of mass destruction. They were unsubstantiated assertions, in my view.’’

Powell, according to both US News and Vanity Fair, was so irritated by Libby’s hodgepodge of unsubstantiated facts that he threw documents into the air and said, ‘‘I’m not reading this. This is bull ...’’

Libby, whose nickname is Scooter, was particularly unhappy that Powell had thrown out sections of the presentation that would have attempted to link Al Qaeda to Saddam, including a discredited report that top 9/11 Al Qaeda airline hijacker Mohamed Atta had a meeting with an Iraqi intelligence official in Prague. According to Vanity Fair, ‘‘Cheney’s office made one last ditch effort to persuade Powell to link Saddam and Al Qaeda and to slip the Prague story back into the speech. Only moments before Powell began speaking, Scooter Libby tried unsuccessfully to reach [Larry] Wilkerson by phone. Powell’s staff chief, by then inside the Security Council chamber, declined to take the call. ‘Scooter,’ said one State Department aide, ‘wasn’t happy.’’’

According to Vanity Fair, Cheney himself urged Powell to go ahead and stake his national popularity on the nonexistent evidence by saying to Powell, ‘‘Your poll numbers are in the 70s. You can afford to lose a few points.’’

America and Iraq would go on to lose more than a few points. Libby may end up as a symbol of a government so driven to ignore the truth it was willing to resort to dirty tricks to stop anyone from telling it.