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  • BigBadBrian
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    U.S. lawmakers call for more American troops in Iraq

    U.S. lawmakers call for more American troops in Iraq
    Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:28 PM ET

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two top U.S. lawmakers on Sunday called for more American troops to be sent to Iraq, but the head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said that was "very unlikely."

    Sens. Joseph Biden and John McCain said there were not enough U.S. forces to fend off insurgent attacks and not enough Iraqi forces are trained to take over from the 138,000 U.S. soldiers there.

    Biden, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ranking Democrat, said fewer than 3,000 Iraqis are fully trained to take over from their American counterparts.

    "We have another probably 20 to 30 battalions out there that, with embedded U.S. military, are able to do a serious, positive job. After that, it falls off the cliff," the Delaware senator said on NBC'S "Meet the Press."

    A recent U.S. military report put the number of Iraqi security forces at 171,300.

    McCain, a top Republican on the Senate Armed Services committee, said if more American troops are not sent, Iraqis should continue to supplement but not replace U.S. forces.

    "The day that I can land at the airport in Baghdad and ride in an unarmed car down the highway to the green zone is the day that I'll start considering withdrawals from Iraq," the Arizona Republican told "Fox News Sunday."

    Earlier this week, President Bush said there was progress in training Iraq's troops and that "more and more" of them are able to fight insurgents.

    Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar said while there were not enough U.S. troops to keep out insurgents, sending more probably would not happen.

    "It's very unlikely that we're going to send more troops to Iraq. We are going to have to train the Iraqis faster and harder," Lugar, an Indiana Republican, said on CNN's "Late Edition."

    The senators' comments followed a report by The Washington Post on Sunday that said the Bush administration is lowering its expectations of what it can achieve in Iraq.

    The report quoted an unnamed senior official, who said U.S. officials do not expect Iraq to develop a model democracy, a self-sustained oil industry or a stable society.

    "What we expected to achieve was never realistic given the timetable or what unfolded on the ground," the Post report quoted the official as saying.

    Florida Democrat Sen. Bill Nelson, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the administration lowered its expectations because "we were not prepared for the occupation."

    Nelson, who agreed more U.S. troops are needed, told CNN Congress should "make sure the administration comes forth with specific goals and benchmarks and timetables as to what can be expected in the way of progress of allowing the Iraqi army to be able to provide their own security."

    The number of U.S. military deaths in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion had reached 1,852 as of Sunday.

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  • FORD
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    #2
    I wonder if Biden's son will volunteer to go
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    • Warham
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      Don't you agree with Democrat-favorite McCain, FORD?

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      • Phil theStalker
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        Warhan and BBB, you guys are still sooooooooooo fakking lame..

        Tit's as obvious as da nose on yer faces..

        uh uh uh u hu hu hu hu h

        Why do you bother?


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        • Phil theStalker
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          #5
          Warhan and BBB, you guys are still sooooooooooo fakking lame..

          Tit's as obvious as da nose on yer faces..

          uh uh uh u hu hu hu hu h

          Why do you bother?


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          • Phil theStalker
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            #6
            Warhan and BBB, you guys are still sooooooooooo fakking lame..

            Tit's as obvious as da nose on yer faces..

            uh uh uh u hu hu hu hu h

            Why do you bother?


            Last edited by FORD; 08-18-2005, 01:45 PM.
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            • Phil theStalker
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              Warhan and BBB, you guys are still sooooooooooo fakking lame..

              Tit's as obvious as da nose on yer faces..

              uh uh uh u hu hu hu hu h

              Why do you bother?


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              • Phil theStalker
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                Warhan and BBB, you guys are still sooooooooooo fakking lame..

                Tit's as obvious as da nose on yer faces..

                uh uh uh u hu hu hu hu h

                Why do you bother?


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                • Phil theStalker
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                  Warhan and BBB, you guys are still sooooooooooo fakking lame..

                  Tit's as obvious as da nose on yer faces..

                  uh uh uh u hu hu hu hu h

                  Why do you bother?


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                  • Phil theStalker
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                    WOT'S
                    GOING ON
                    HERE,
                    BAYBEE!?






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                    • superdave
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                      Phil--are you capable of talking normal, and not sounding like Emo Phillips??

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                      • Phil theStalker
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                        I NEVA ATTACHED ANY IMAGE..

                        WOT DA FAKK'S GOING ON HERE?

                        HUH



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                        • Phil theStalker
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                          Originally posted by superdave
                          Phil--are you capable of talking normal, and not sounding like Emo Phillips??
                          Emo?

                          Yoo know aboot Emo?

                          We try t2o keep him locked up in da basement at hitchWORLD1969..

                          In a cage..



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                          • Keef
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                            Re: U.S. lawmakers call for more American troops in Iraq

                            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                            U.S. lawmakers call for more American troops in Iraq
                            Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:28 PM ET

                            WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two top U.S. lawmakers on Sunday called for more American troops to be sent to Iraq, but the head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said that was "very unlikely."

                            Sens. Joseph Biden and John McCain said there were not enough U.S. forces to fend off insurgent attacks and not enough Iraqi forces are trained to take over from the 138,000 U.S. soldiers there.

                            Biden, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ranking Democrat, said fewer than 3,000 Iraqis are fully trained to take over from their American counterparts.

                            "We have another probably 20 to 30 battalions out there that, with embedded U.S. military, are able to do a serious, positive job. After that, it falls off the cliff," the Delaware senator said on NBC'S "Meet the Press."

                            A recent U.S. military report put the number of Iraqi security forces at 171,300.

                            McCain, a top Republican on the Senate Armed Services committee, said if more American troops are not sent, Iraqis should continue to supplement but not replace U.S. forces.

                            "The day that I can land at the airport in Baghdad and ride in an unarmed car down the highway to the green zone is the day that I'll start considering withdrawals from Iraq," the Arizona Republican told "Fox News Sunday."

                            Earlier this week, President Bush said there was progress in training Iraq's troops and that "more and more" of them are able to fight insurgents.

                            Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar said while there were not enough U.S. troops to keep out insurgents, sending more probably would not happen.

                            "It's very unlikely that we're going to send more troops to Iraq. We are going to have to train the Iraqis faster and harder," Lugar, an Indiana Republican, said on CNN's "Late Edition."

                            The senators' comments followed a report by The Washington Post on Sunday that said the Bush administration is lowering its expectations of what it can achieve in Iraq.

                            The report quoted an unnamed senior official, who said U.S. officials do not expect Iraq to develop a model democracy, a self-sustained oil industry or a stable society.

                            "What we expected to achieve was never realistic given the timetable or what unfolded on the ground," the Post report quoted the official as saying.

                            Florida Democrat Sen. Bill Nelson, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the administration lowered its expectations because "we were not prepared for the occupation."

                            Nelson, who agreed more U.S. troops are needed, told CNN Congress should "make sure the administration comes forth with specific goals and benchmarks and timetables as to what can be expected in the way of progress of allowing the Iraqi army to be able to provide their own security."

                            The number of U.S. military deaths in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion had reached 1,852 as of Sunday.

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                            This is not a left or right argument anymore. Atleast it should not be.

                            It's about a cesspool of thugs that have taken CONTROL of our country.

                            I wish more people would understand this. Stop fighting each other, and start fighting the real problem.

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                            • Phil theStalker
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by superdave
                              Phil--are you capable of talking normal, and not sounding like Emo Phillips??
                              I believe the people of the world deserve what you ask for. I normally
                              pass on those lenghty, lesson-filled, spell check perfect posts I read
                              here on a daily basis, most of them from flappo or some other "normal" member.

                              TIME HAS COME TODAY.

                              I usually just ignore these call outs. Of course, all at the risk of losing
                              life, limb, and liberty. But when superdave posts to you a call out
                              and asks you if you're capable of talking "normal," you answer it out
                              of pride. And now I'm answering it f4or, oops, for all of you.

                              Not because I fear the wrath of the spirit of message board Internet
                              fraternity, but just because I really WANT to.

                              WHAT IS NORMAL?

                              When do you change your underwear, daily, when they seem like they
                              need changing, when they're rotting in caked splooge? What IS normal? huh

                              Maybe we can answer that by attacking the problem in reverse.
                              What is "abnormal?"

                              The definition of the word abnormal is simple enough: deviating from
                              the norm. However, applying this to "talking" poses a most complex
                              problem: what IS normal? Whose norm? For what age? For what
                              culture? For what wife-swapping club?

                              Some would simply classify what is "good" as normal and what
                              is "bad" as abnormal, but this is a vague and narrow definition and
                              brings up many of the same questions f4or, oops, for the definition
                              of "good" as does the definition f4or, oops, "normal."

                              A very simple idea that can be used to classify abnormal behavior
                              is "happiness." Basically, if a person is content with their life, then
                              they are of no concern to society. However, if a person's thoughts or
                              behaviors are causing them "unhappiness," then they can be
                              considered abnormal.

                              There are many things people do that others would find strange.
                              The various piercings many people are doing to themselves seems
                              bizarre to those who don't.

                              Modern scans have pinpointed circuits in the monkey brain that could
                              be precursors of those in humans for talking and language.
                              Talking derives from a gestural communication system used by proto-humans,
                              monkeys and homo sapiens. What does the middle finger mean? huh

                              What does the middle finger being given by a monkey mean?
                              While monkeys lack the vocal equipment needed to articulate
                              speech, they do have the brain circuits needed for simple
                              communication.

                              Monkey vocalizations are limited to calls and screeches, but they are
                              able to communicate via facial gestures such as tooth chatttering and
                              lip smacking.

                              Monkeys get depressed, too. I was just reading a report on new
                              findings about patterns of depression in monkeys. Scientists hope
                              that studying them could lead to better treatments for depression in
                              people.

                              So talking normal is just monkey business. I regret that I cannot be
                              of more assistance in this matter. I would also like to apologize f4or,
                              oops, for the delay in replying and I trust that this has clarified the
                              points you have raised, however, if you wish to discuss any points I
                              have not clarified, or need any further information, I will look forward
                              to hearing from you. Should you have any queries, please do not
                              hesitate to post to me again.


                              =PtS=



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