Able Danger's Hidden Hand

[jhale667]

IT BURNS!!!! IT BURNS!!!!!

[Nickdfresh]

The funny thing is...I'm listening to "Everybody Wants Some" and RENO kind of moves to it. Ugh!!

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
This ABLE DANGER stuff is increasingly sounding like bullshit to me, now they're corroborating the "ties" between Atta and the IRAQIs, pure bullshit!

Yeah, anything to sever the al-Qaeda/Saddam link, huh?

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
So, in a nutshell . . . it's Clinton's fault, right?

Not entirely.

Richard Clarke must take a portion of the blame also.

As well as Sandy Berger, Al Gore, etc.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Yeah, anything to sever the al-Qaeda/Saddam link, huh?

You mean the magic air link? Sure, whatever...

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Warham
Sandy Berger was probably stuffing those Able Danger memo's down his drawers to save Slick Willy the embarrassment.

What a happy day for you


I just hope somebody gives you a BJ someday so you can move on with your life.

[Warham]

OD, Sandy Berger had nothing to do with Ms Lewinsky.

Please stay on topic.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Warham
OD, Sandy Berger had nothing to do with Ms Lewinsky.

Please stay on topic.

serenity now!

[DrMaddVibe]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050916/ap_on_go_co/sept11_hijackers

Weldon: Atta Papers Destroyed on Orders

By DONNA DE LA CRUZ, Associated Press Writer 11 minutes ago

A Pentagon employee was ordered to destroy documents that identified Mohamed Atta as a terrorist two years before the 2001 attacks, a congressman said Thursday.

The employee is prepared to testify next week before the Senate Judiciary Committee and was expected to name the person who ordered him to destroy the large volume of documents, said Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa.

Weldon declined to name the employee, citing confidentiality matters. Weldon described the documents as "2.5 terabytes" — as much as one-fourth of all the printed materials in the Library of Congress, he added.

A Senate Judiciary Committee aide said the witnesses for Wednesday's hearing had not been finalized and could not confirm Weldon's comments.

A message left Thursday with a Pentagon spokesman, Army Maj. Paul Swiergosz, was not immediately returned.

Weldon has said that Atta, the mastermind of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and three other hijackers were identified in 1999 by a classified military intelligence unit known as "Able Danger," which determined they could be members of an al-Qaida cell.

On Wednesday, former members of the Sept. 11 commission dismissed the "Able Danger" assertions. One commissioner, ex-Sen. Slade Gorton, R-Wash., said, "Bluntly, it just didn't happen and that's the conclusion of all 10 of us."

Weldon responded angrily to Gorton's assertions.

"It's absolutely unbelievable that a commission would say this program just didn't exist," Weldon said Thursday.

Pentagon officials said this month they had found three more people who recall an intelligence chart identifying Atta as a terrorist prior to the Sept. 11 attacks.

Two military officers, Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer and Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott, have come forward to support Weldon's claims.

[DrMaddVibe]

'Able Danger' Will Get Second Hearing

Saturday, September 24, 2005

WASHINGTON — The Defense Department on Friday reversed its earlier decision to bar key witnesses from testifying about just how much information the U.S. government had on the Sept. 11 hijackers before they led the attacks that killed 3,000 people.

The Senate Judiciary Committee has therefore scheduled a second hearing for next week on the formerly secret Pentagon intelligence unit called "Able Danger" (search).

Former members of Able Danger say the group identified Sept. 11 hijackers, including Mohamed Atta (search), more than a year before the attacks. Although those Able Danger analysts say they told the Sept. 11 commission about their findings, former members of the panel have so far dismissed the claim.

The Senate Judiciary Committee said in a statement Friday that the Pentagon now will allow five witnesses to testify. Among those are Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer (search), Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott (search) and defense contractor John Smith (search).

Shaffer said in written testimony last week that the Pentagon blocked him from offering information on Able Danger and its identification of Atta — the lead hijacker.

Committee Chairman Sen. Arlen Specter (search), R-Pa., had suggested that the Pentagon's refusal to allow the testimony "may be an obstruction" to the committee's work. Specter is the judiciary committee chairman.

The second hearing will focus on what happened with pre-attack charts and information allegedly destroyed at the behest of military leaders.

The committee held its first hearing Wednesday, after which senators still had questions.

"I think the Department of Defense owes the American people an explanation about what went on here," Specter said. "The American people are entitled to some answers."

Shaffer's attorney, Mark Zaid, also said that the Pentagon prevented testimony from a defense contractor that he also represents.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the Defense Department had a representative at the hearing and that it had provided sufficient information to committee members.

“I think there are aspects of this as a classified program that we have expressed some concerns with respect to the appropriateness of some things in an open hearing,” Whitman told reporters after the first hearing on Wednesday. “We are working very closely to provide all the information that [committee members] need to assess Able Danger.”

Zaid fielded questions from committee members on behalf of Shaffer and contractor Smith. He testified that Able Danger, using data mining techniques, identified four of the terrorists who struck on Sept. 11, 2001.

Zaid said Shaffer would have testified about charts his team created dealing with Al Qaeda (search) and a grainy photo on file of Atta.

“Shaffer remembers it specifically because of the evil death look in Mohamad Atta’s eyes,” Zaid said.

Pentagon officials had acknowledged earlier this month that they had found three people who recall an intelligence chart identifying Atta as a terrorist prior to the Sept. 11 attacks.

Specter asked the official representing the Department of Defense at the hearing, William Dugan (search), the acting assistant to the secretary for intelligence oversight, if the department had any information about an Al Qaeda cell and Atta.

"I don't know," Dugan replied.

Specter asked Dugan to "find out the answers to those questions" relating to what the department knew about the workings of Able Danger.

Able Danger personnel have said they tried to give the FBI information three times, but Defense Department attorneys refused, citing legal concerns about investigations run by the military on U.S. soil, Zaid said.

Former Army Major Eric Klein Smith also testified that he was instructed to destroy data and documents related to Able Danger in May and June of 2000, in accordance with Army regulations that limited the collection and holding of information of U.S. persons.

Klein Smith said the order to destroy data was not hostile or aggressive, it was a matter of policy. Asked if this information could have prevented Sept. 11, the major said he could not speculate, but believed it would have been significant and useful.

Klein Smith said that he did not remember seeing a picture of Atta, but said he believed "implicitly" claims by Shaffer and Phillpott that they had seen Atta's picture.

Zaid told committee members that some of the secret unit's records were also destroyed in March 2001 and spring 2004.

Rep. Curt Weldon (search), R-Pa., was the first lawmaker to come forward with claims that the Sept. 11 commission that investigated pre-attack intelligence failed to accept offers from Able Danger staff about the data it had before the attacks.

Weldon said their refusal to hear from Able Danger's members makes the government record of intelligence incomplete.

FOX News' Catherine Herridge and Trish Turner and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[Jesus Christ]

Verily much deception hath taken place in this story, and the Sons of Bush are guilty of it.

[FORD]

Amen, Lord!

I wonder if they'll admit that Atta was running drugs for the BCE with his CIA "flight instructors" Rudi Dekkers and Wally Hilliard.

[ELVIS]

Responding to yourself again ??

[FORD]

Quit changing the subject. Atta was a BCE drug smuggler, and that fact (along with Babs Olson's "miraculous resurrection" are going to blow this 9-11-01 scam right open. The BCE is going DOWN.

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by FORD
The BCE is going DOWN.

Keep telling yourself that dimwit!

Is Santa too?