Katrina is Bush's fault!

[Nickdfresh]

HILLARY helped save Niagara FALLS Air Station...

[Nitro Express]

My inlaws lived in New Orleans. My father in-law told me years ago the place would go underwater if a big hurricane swelled lake Poncheteran.

All I can say is the environmentalists should be happy as shit. For years they were crying that the channeling of water to keep New Orleans dry was ruining the wetlands. Now New Orleans is a wetland and the alligators and watermoccasins have already moved in. After some sediment settles in and the water plants take root, New Orleans with be swamp again. A swamp with a big dome and some scyscrapers sticking out of it.

It's going to cost a lot of money to rebuild New Orleans and is it worth it?

Yeah, I say it's a bad location. Time to move upstream.

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Oh please, the US is not the only country on the planet.
How can an American President that has only been in office for 5 years be responsible for the entire worlds environmental problems?

Take a walk outside, see those big 4 wheeled things in many different colors?
They are called "Automobiles", lol, and anyone who drives one is polluting the air.
See all the plastic in front of your face right now? It's called a computer and plastic is a petroleum product.

Everything that releases pollution into the air is due to one concept, "Supply and Demand".

Everyone on this planet in one way or another contributes to the problem on a global scale, not one man in Washington for 5 years.
I've heard the term "Global Warming" since i was a kid so every President that has served in the Post Industrial Boom is guilty.

That means me, you, everybody and not in that particular order.

If the consumer cuts the demand then the supply will also be cut resulting in a reduction of the pollutants being released into the air.

Somebody wasted a bunch of money on Billboards just to look like a fucking moron with a political agenda, as fucking usual.

A majority of researchers have stated that storms like this one will occur more and more often, with the obvious side effects.

Bush and co. have waved aside such warnings as unsubstantial and dangerous for the economy. I wonder how much the economy is enjoying the wreckage in NO.

So, while Bush & co. aren´t directly responsible for this one, they certainly have their part of the responsibility for future catastrophes.

P.S. the US produces twice the amount of greenhouse gases per capita than us west Europeans, think about it!

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by Cathedral
So did Clinton....And if he had done his job 9-11 could have maybe been avoided.

Let's face it, the people we have to choose from for Prez on both sides suck major donkey dick.

I have no confidence in any politician anymore and what i had before was not earned and my faith in them was ignorantly misplaced.

Read Madelaine Albright´s memoirs. She writes how Bush´s team (especially Ms Rice) were warned of the threat Osama Bin Laden and his organisation posed. Bush´s administration though decided to focus on other threats!

[LOS35]

Not to point the finger but
knowing that your city is below sea level
knowing a week ahead of time this big storm is approaching

Why wasn’t anything done to strengthen those levees??
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i'll point fingers...

(ed.note: The following excerpts are from an article by Sheila Grissett which appeared in the June 8th, 2004 edition of the Times-Picayune.)

For the first time in 37 years, federal budget cuts have all but stopped major work on the New Orleans area's east bank hurricane levees, a complex network of concrete walls, metal gates and giant earthen berms that won't be finished for at least another decade.

"I guess people look around and think there's a complete system in place, that we're just out here trying to put icing on the cake," said Mervin Morehiser, who manages the "Lake Pontchartrain and vicinity" levee project for the Army Corps of Engineers. "And we aren't saying that the sky is falling, but people should know that this is a work in progress, and there's more important work yet to do before there is a complete system in place."

...

"I can't tell you exactly what that could mean this hurricane season if we get a major storm," Naomi said. "It would depend on the path and speed of the storm, the angle that it hits us.

"But I can tell you that we would be better off if the levees were raised, . . . and I think it's important and only fair that those people who live behind the levee know the status of these projects."

...

The Bush administration's proposed fiscal 2005 budget includes only $3.9 million for the east bank hurricane project. Congress likely will increase that amount, although last year it bumped up the administration's $3 million proposal only to $5.5 million.

"I needed $11 million this year, and I got $5.5 million," Naomi said. "I need $22.5 million next year to do everything that needs doing, and the first $4.5 million of that will go to pay four contractors who couldn't get paid this year."

...

The challenge now, said emergency management chiefs Walter Maestri in Jefferson Parish and Terry Tullier in New Orleans, is for southeast Louisiana somehow to persuade those who control federal spending that protection from major storms and flooding are matters of homeland security.

"It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay," Maestri said. "Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us."

...

Levee-raising is only part of the flood-related work that has stopped since the federal government began reducing Corps of Engineers appropriations in 2001, as more money was diverted to homeland security, the fight against terrorism and the war in Iraq.

[Nickdfresh]

I have friends that indirectly work on gov't contracts here in BUFFALO/Niagara FALLS, and virtually all projects were cut or underfunded in order to fund IRAQ!!

In addition, the cost of construction materials will increase expedientially due to the amount of lumber and other construction materials being exported to the middle east.

[SilvioDante]

Originally posted by kentuckyklira
Read Madelaine Albright´s memoirs. She writes how Bush´s team (especially Ms Rice) were warned of the threat Osama Bin Laden and his organisation posed. Bush´s administration though decided to focus on other threats!

So, Bush should have sent a couple of cruise missiles at him like Clinton did?? Yeah, that would have done the trick.

Clinton had 8 years to deal with Bin Laden, Bush had 8 months.

[FORD]

Dipshit Chimp is now on TV claiming he had no way of knowing the levees were at risk, despite all the budget cuts he approved which addressed this very issue.

FUCK YOU JUNIOR! While you were snorting all that cocaine at your YALE Skull & Bones frat parties, you might have listened to a band called Led Zeppelin.

THEY predicted the levees would fail back in 1971. So you ain't got no excuses, bitch! :D

When the Levee Breaks
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If it keeps on rainin', levee's going to break
If it keeps on rainin', levee's going to break
A-when the levee breaks, have no place to stay

Mean old levee, taught me to weep and moan and moan
Mean old levee, taught me to weep and moan
It's got what it takes to make a mountain-man leave his home
Oh, well-a, oh, well-a, oh, well-a, ooh-ooh

A-don't it make ya feel bad
when you're tryin' to find your way home
and ya don't know which way to go
If you're goin' down south and they've no work to do
then ya go north to Chicago, ah, 'eah, 'eah, hey

Cryin' won't help ya, prayin' won't do ya no good
Now, cryin' won't help ya, prayin' won't do ya no good
A-when the levee breaks, mama, you got to move, a-woo-hoo

All last night, sat on the levee and moaned
All last night, sat on the levee and moaned
Thinkin' 'bout my baby and my happy home, oh-hoh

Ah-ah-ah, ah-ah-ah, ah-ah-ah, ha
Ah-ah-ah, ah-ah-ah, ah-ah-ah, ha
Oh, oh
Goin', I'm goin' to Chicago, goin' to Chicago
Sorry, but I can't take you
Goin' down, goin' down, now, goin' down, a-goin' down, now
Goin' down, goin' down, goin' down, goin' down, yeahh
Goin' down, goin' down, now, goin' down, goin' down, now
Goin' down, goin' down, now, goin' down
Goin' down, down, down, down, down
Ooh-woo-ooh, ooh-woo-ooh

[scamper]

Isn't this something that should have been fixed years ago, I don't think you can blame it all on the current administration, and I doubt (even though they have fucked up a bunch of shit) that they ruined the world environment in 5 years . I also think everyone is forgetting about all the people in Gulfport and Biloxi that were wiped out.

[FORD]

Originally posted by scamper
Isn't this something that should have been fixed years ago, I don't think you can blame it all on the current administration, and I doubt (even though they have fucked up a bunch of shit) that they ruined the world environment in 5 years . I also think everyone is forgetting about all the people in Gulfport and Biloxi that were wiped out.

New Orleans grabs the headlines because it's the "big city" and because of the double disaster of the levee.

As for what the BCE is to blame for, their gutting of existing environmental laws and refusal to even work with other countries on the Kyoto bill does have a lot to do with it.

But what's worse now is that they simply haven't prepared for an event such as this. Partially because they have scalped the budget that was meant to deal with it, and partially because they turned FEMA into a dispenser of martial law in the event of any more staged "terraist attacks", rather than the job the agency was intended for.

Even now,, you have relief organizations wanting to help. You have corporations stepping up to donate various goods from Toyota trucks to Coleman camping equipment, to food and water. What you don't have is the FEMA feds coordinating it very well, and you don't have the National Guard there to do the work, because they're in fucking Iraq taking bullets for Israel and Texaco.

The BCE fucked this thing up in more ways than I can even count. Maybe something good will come out of this now with the red states seeing first hand in their own states what a fucking bunch of idiots these clowns are.

[LOS35]

Originally posted by SilvioDante
So, Bush should have sent a couple of cruise missiles at him like Clinton did?? Yeah, that would have done the trick.

Clinton had 8 years to deal with Bin Laden, Bush had 8 months.

And what?? Yeah, Bush has had 8 months to deal with laden but what has he done to him?? Not a dam thing!! The media don't even mention him anymore just like the wma's because it was all BS just to finish what his daddy did!!

[Warham]

If they found the levees weren't going to hold up and break back in 1971, then why didn't Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush or Clinton do anything about it? Let's not throw Bush under the bus when there's so many other people to blame.

Why don't we blame the city and state first, then get to the federal government. Houston seems to have their ducks in a row. Shit, they are doing more in Texas for these people than Louisiana is right now. The governor and mayor both seem inept right now.

[LOS35]

What can they do their is nothing down there!! DUHH

[zeronumber]

I still think this whole global warning stuff is pure bullshit, espesially when I have to go out and shovel 2 feet of snow in 0 degree weather in the winter time. Sometimes I feel like taking that same shovel and beating the living shit out of all the tree huging ass clowns out there that spew this bullshit.

Anyway, the thing with new orleans can't be blamed on just bush alone.
Frankly, you drain a city, and build it under sea level right next to a gulf...eventually...It's going to flood. It doesn't take a genius to figure that much out. Big hurricane comes, it nocks out the power generators for the pumps that drain the city, and the city get's flooded.(Technically since some parts of the city were below see level, they weren't flooded, but rather submerged...whatever)

As for rebuilding...Come on. That's a bigger crock of shit than the freedom tower being built as a huge skyscraper with a huge ass antenna... Or the mid west states that get hugely flooded over, when the missisipi river strenghtens up, and goes out again.

YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE SAME SHIT TO HAPPEN AGAIN!!!

There is plenty of room in other states and territories to build houses and to live life.

You know, it pisses me off that every time something goes wrong in the country, somebody automatically blames Bush.

You want to know why we weren't part of the Kyoto treaty, because that means a loss in american jobs, what retard(espesially republican) would want to ratify a treaty that only coillides with japan and the united states, and would just give out huge incentives to move american jobs to china and india?

You can't stop mother nature. At the end, nature will always kick our sorry little asses and put us in check, no matter, where you are in the world.

Tsunami, Hurricanes, Earthquakes, Floods, Droughts, disease...
Shit happens, nature's been doing that for the last 6 billion years, and now we point the finger at a president that's only been in office for 5 of them?...come on.

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by zeronumber
I still think this whole global warning stuff is pure bullshit, espesially when I have to go out and shovel 2 feet of snow in 0 degree weather in the winter time. Sometimes I feel like taking that same shovel and beating the living shit out of all the tree huging ass clowns out there that spew this bullshit.

Anyway, the thing with new orleans can't be blamed on just bush alone.
Frankly, you drain a city, and build it under sea level right next to a gulf...eventually...It's going to flood. It doesn't take a genius to figure that much out. Big hurricane comes, it nocks out the power generators for the pumps that drain the city, and the city get's flooded.(Technically since some parts of the city were below see level, they weren't flooded, but rather submerged...whatever)

As for rebuilding...Come on. That's a bigger crock of shit than the freedom tower being built as a huge skyscraper with a huge ass antenna... Or the mid west states that get hugely flooded over, when the missisipi river strenghtens up, and goes out again.

YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE SAME SHIT TO HAPPEN AGAIN!!!

There is plenty of room in other states and territories to build houses and to live life.

You know, it pisses me off that every time something goes wrong in the country, somebody automatically blames Bush.

You want to know why we weren't part of the Kyoto treaty, because that means a loss in american jobs, what retard(espesially republican) would want to ratify a treaty that only coillides with japan and the united states, and would just give out huge incentives to move american jobs to china and india?

You can't stop mother nature. At the end, nature will always kick our sorry little asses and put us in check, no matter, where you are in the world.

Tsunami, Hurricanes, Earthquakes, Floods, Droughts, disease...
Shit happens, nature's been doing that for the last 6 billion years, and now we point the finger at a president that's only been in office for 5 of them?...come on.

Nice to know that a college shmuck is smerter than a few thousand acknowledged researchers!

Let us know when you´ve been awarded a Nobel Prize!