BBC- New ORLEANS' Response Shames AMERICA!

[Warham]

New Orleans had an evacuation plan. Limbaugh read part of it on the air today. The problem is, Mayor Nagin didn't implement it. Those buses were to be used for folks who didn't have transportation of their own, as well as the elderly and disabled who couldn't move of their own accord. But there they sat, waterlogged, and unused. They had upwards of 500 buses they could have used for those very purposes.

Mayor Nagin should be ashamed of himself.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Warham
New Orleans had an evacuation plan. Limbaugh read part of it on the air today. The problem is, Mayor Nagin didn't implement it. Those buses were to be used for folks who didn't have transportation of their own, as well as the elderly and disabled who couldn't move on their own. But there they sat, waterlogged, and unused. They had upwards of 500 buses they could have used for those very purposes.

Mayor Nagin should be ashamed of himself.

True enough.

Like Guitar Shark said in another thread:

There is enough blame for everyone to go around.

Also, the responsibility to deploy National Guard troops lies with the State's Governor.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
They probably wouldn't be able to go in for a few months, or years if a nuke hit New Orleans, but that's beside the point.

Wrong.

[Warham]

So you'd think the National Guard would go into a highly radioactive area days after a nuke hit? Where would they find enough suits to do that?

1 megaton surface fallout effects.

Assumptions
Wind speed: 15 mph
Wind direction: due east
Time frame: 7 days

3,000 Rem*
Distance: 30 miles
Much more than a lethal dose of radiation. Death can occur within hours of exposure. About 10 years will need to pass before levels of radioactivity in this area drop low enough to be considered safe, by U.S. peacetime standards.

900 Rem
Distance: 90 miles
A lethal dose of radiation. Death occurs from two to fourteen days.

300 Rem
Distance: 160 miles
Causes extensive internal damage, including harm to nerve cells and the cells that line the digestive tract, and results in a loss of white blood cells. Temporary hair loss is another result.

90 Rem
Distance: 250 miles
Causes a temporary decrease in white blood cells, although there are no immediate harmful effects. Two to three years will need to pass before radioactivity levels in this area drop low enough to be considered safe, by U.S. peacetime standards.

*Rem: Stands for "roentgen equivalent man." This is a measurement used to quantify the amount of radiation that will produce certain biological effects.

NOTE: This information has been drawn mainly from "The Effects of Nuclear War" (Washington: Office of Technology Assessment, Congress of the United States, 1979). The zones of destruction described on this page are broad generalizations and do not take into account factors such as weather and geography of the target.

[jacksmar]

Real help is on the way!!!!!

[Warham]

hehe. Good ole Dukakis.

[Warham]

OOPS! Double post.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
So you'd think the National Guard would go into a highly radioactive area days after a nuke hit? Where would they find enough suits to do that?

1 megaton surface fallout effects.

Assumptions
Wind speed: 15 mph
Wind direction: due east
Time frame: 7 days

3,000 Rem*
Distance: 30 miles
Much more than a lethal dose of radiation. Death can occur within hours of exposure. About 10 years will need to pass before levels of radioactivity in this area drop low enough to be considered safe, by U.S. peacetime standards.

900 Rem
Distance: 90 miles
A lethal dose of radiation. Death occurs from two to fourteen days.

300 Rem
Distance: 160 miles
Causes extensive internal damage, including harm to nerve cells and the cells that line the digestive tract, and results in a loss of white blood cells. Temporary hair loss is another result.

90 Rem
Distance: 250 miles
Causes a temporary decrease in white blood cells, although there are no immediate harmful effects. Two to three years will need to pass before radioactivity levels in this area drop low enough to be considered safe, by U.S. peacetime standards.

*Rem: Stands for "roentgen equivalent man." This is a measurement used to quantify the amount of radiation that will produce certain biological effects.

NOTE: This information has been drawn mainly from "The Effects of Nuclear War" (Washington: Office of Technology Assessment, Congress of the United States, 1979). The zones of destruction described on this page are broad generalizations and do not take into account factors such as weather and geography of the target.

They'd probably set up containment zones immediately.

And NBC specialists would most likely move in if it were a small yield terror device...


BTW, one-megaton is the size of an ICBM's warhead. A small "terrorist" device would never be near that size, (maybe 10-30 KT max) especially since terrorist nukes don't exist.

[Warham]

Yep, you are correct. A terrorist suitcase bomb wouldn't be that large.

Some ICBMs are 10 megatons, so I picked the midrange.

Either way, this kind of situation would prove quite catastrophic.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Yep, you are correct. A terrorist suitcase bomb wouldn't be that large.

Some ICBMs are 10 megatons, so I picked the midrange.

Either way, this kind of situation would prove quite catastrophic.

Very few are 10 meggies....

Those are for strictly silo busting.

No argument there, but a small device contained within a building or a city block would be very different from a one-megaton air burst...

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Wrong.

Wow...a nuclear specialist in the house.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
especially since terrorist nukes don't exist.

Yet.

[Seshmeister]

Pretty sure Fats Domino could afford his own transport out the city, the bus thing is only part of the story.

[Seshmeister]

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Wow...a nuclear specialist in the house.

Well I read things, a cuntcept largely foreign to you I can tell...