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[Seshmeister]

Sorry FORD but this is a wet dream IMHO.

We tried it in the UK and the left candidate v the conservative populist got absolutely fucking destroyed. An incompetent who was driven out by his own party a couple of years later still beat the left wing Bernie guy by the biggest result since the 1930s.

The problem is that a candidate like that wins a lot of votes that don't matter a fuck in an electoral system like the US or UK. Pointless meaningless votes. If you ever want someone like Bernie to win you would need to firstly change your electoral system and secondly change who votes. Young people don't.

[FORD]

From what I remember, your left wing guy, Corbyn, got sabotaged by mostly bullshit accusations of "antisemitism" because he opposed NuttyYahoo's policies. It was a little more difficult to throw that label against Bernie, who's not only Jewish, but actually lived on a Kibbutz in Israel for a while in the 1960s.

It's true that it's harder here for any decent candidate to run in a two party system, with Shittizens United opening the floodgates to corporate election funding, and a fully compliant corporate media. I would really like to see Ranked Choice Voting become the standard in all US elections, but the catch 22 there is that the corporatists would spend all kinds of money to keep it from happening.

[Seshmeister]

The US and UK have uniquely shit voting systems.

Both countries are unusually right wing for western democracies and the electoral systems and media reinforce that.

You have to be realistic and swallow that in a democracy you only get to vote for the least bad and if they aren't really centrist no one who isn't conservative can win elections.

The annoying thing to me in particular is that despite all the actual facts and evidence the Democrats or labour in the UK have always been painted as the irresponsible ones economically when it's actually the Conservatives that have been pissing away the money in recent years. Perception is reality though and your vote is worth the exact same as the guy who spend 30 seconds 'thinking' about it and based it on whether the guy was tall, had a beard or he would like to have a beer with them. Even if by some miracle Bernie had become president there is no way he could have got any legislation through.

[FORD]

[FORD]

Apparently Joe has COVID now. While I'm sure he's up to date on his vaccines and has the best health care taxpayers can buy him... he is still an 82 year old man.

Cue the Depeche Mode, because somebody's got a sick sense of humor.......

[FORD]

ABC News is reporting that Cuck Schumer & Hakeem "AIPAC" Jeffries have privately told Biden that he's gotta go because he's hurting down ballot races, as well as the Presidential ticket. Schumer allegedly claimed to "speak for his caucus", meaning that Senate Democrats - Joe's own former teammates - agree that he's gotta go.

[FORD]

[FORD]

[FORD]

[FORD]

It's official. Joe's off the ticket.....

[FORD]

Biden apparently followed this letter with a tweet officially endorsing Kamala Harris as the new candidate. Now let's see if the DNC suits accept his decision.. and then move on to the battle for the new #2 slot.