immigration and crime

[Kristy]

I have! I used to live in a farming fucking shithole where illegal immigrants were piped in on buses you can still see around the farms there. You know why? Because they can fucking use and abuse them like cattle without paying things like minimum wage and social security and stuff.

Gee, why do so many "illegal immigrants" come here? Because we are addicted to their cheap labor and you are all full of fucking shit!

I'd say that's true. About a year ago we had one hell of a devastating hail storm the same storm that injured a lot of people at a Red Rocks show that went to the E.R. with head wounds from being pounding with chunks of ice coming at you from the sky with no mercy.

Anyway, my non-point/point being that there was also massive property damage particularly to roofs if not a lot of cars being totaled (mine was among them) and who did the repairs? It wasn't white "folks" with their Trump signs but I'd say who did that back-backing labor were all immigrants, working in dangerous conditions in either extreme heat or extreme cold with no health insurance, so if any one of them ever became injured they were more than fucked. Zah in his Fox News Bubble World seems to ignore this eating his shitty Walmart Cheerios binge watching his right-wing hate machine and absorbing in all the fear they have to spew. Not one of those immigrants looked or ever did anything criminal, they were looking for a better quality of life for not only them but their families. No Fox News watching retard is ever going to do that line of work. If Zah wants to dwell in fear because his F A T orange cult leader tells them that brown-skinned people are not "the best people" he can go to the places where they came from and see how long he wants to live there. The only way to control illegal immigration is for America to stop fucking with other countries in the Global South. That is never going to happen. After all, who are these Fox anchors going to call when they need landscaping done?

[Seshmeister]

As far as the candidates in the US presidential election goes It's kind of funny that 3/4 of the candidates parents were immigrants and Harris has exactly the kind of immigrants every western country is happy to get - super educated scientists whereas Trump's Scottish mother was an unskilled domestic and by all accounts a nasty piece of work that is part of the reason for his personality issues.

Also ironic that usually Scotland and in particular Ireland are all over claiming a US success story as one of their own but most people in Scotland are not fans of Trump due to shit that went down with him buying golf courses pre presidency plus his politics and that Harris gets her Irish name from an ancestors slave owner so a bit awkward.. The Irish like the Scots like to pretend they weren't involved in that kind of shit back in the day when actually a bunch of them were acting as the henchmen of the British Empire.

[ZahZoo]

I have! I used to live in a farming fucking shithole where illegal immigrants were piped in on buses you can still see around the farms there. You know why? Because they can fucking use and abuse them like cattle without paying things like minimum wage and social security and stuff.

Gee, why do so many "illegal immigrants" come here? Because we are addicted to their cheap labor and you are all full of fucking shit!

I grew up in California's Salinas valley and later lived/worked in the Santa Clara valley... later nicknamed Silicon Valley. Both are rich agricultural areas with a history of migrant farm worker abuse. I've seen the abuse and human trafficking first hand... even watched and overheard the deals between big farm owners and Mexican Mafia assholes openly discussed in a Sambos restaurant that I was a cook at when I was 19. There's no denying the shit that goes on...

But there's the other side of this that doesn't get much air time... I was friends with many good people who even with the cheap wages... they worked their asses off and sent money back home to Mexico or other central American countries that enabled them to buy clothes and shoes so their kids could go to school and make something of their lives at home and not have to go through what the parents sacrificed to give them a better life. That's why a majority of those folks risk to travel north to the US...

[Seshmeister]