Republicans vrs. Democrats

[DLR'sCock]

When the top 2% make 95% of the money in this country, then they have no choice but to pay most of the taxes....

Jesus Chirst, it's like when the value of your house goes up and your happy, but then, you realize that not only did you just make money, but if your house is reassessed then you will pay higher taxes andddddd then you get pissed.

YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO, BUT PEOPLE MOST(NOT ALL) ARE GREEDY SWINE.

[FORD]

If they actually PAID those taxes it would be one thing, but they do not.

They use CPA's and lawyers to find every available write-off, tax shelter, and loophole, that they can get away with, to the point where some billionaires actually pay less tax than I do.

And don't even bother denying it. Everyone knows it happens.

That's why I'm all in flavor of discussing a flat tax, but I damn sure don't trust Steve Forbes to come up with one that's truly equitable.

[conmee]

A flat tax, by definition, would be equitable... it really would be up to Congress, with the addition of all sorts of loopholes that would squeeze in the inequities and turn a 1 page tax code into a 1200 page tome... flat tax, across the board, regardless of income, with no exceptions... that would be fair. But that would put alot of accountants and lawyers out of business...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Since the wealthiest Americans (top 25% of all earners) pay more than 80% of the federal taxes in this country, they'll get the biggest cuts, by definition. Just wanted to clear that up.

They also own like 98% of the wealth. Just wanted to clear that up. I could be wrong, that's from memory.

Of course, that leaves out the corporate welfare tax breaks at all levels since we're talking about individuals...

[Pink Spider]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
What I'm saying is that ideally it should be both. You can't look at examples of companies like Haliburtan and say that that was an ideal way to get anything done, those corrupt, price-gauging, and over-paid bastards are driving up costs and shirking accountability.

Generally, any company with ties to the Bush adminstration is probably evil by default. I wouldn't use them in any example for capitalism. They're more like a front that drains corporate welfare.


Ideally, it's both gov't and the private sector. The Army Corp of Engineers often serve as the overseer by appointing a general contractor. That contractor then bids out work to smaller firms. That way theres a nice set of checks and balances, and things get done in a cost effective manner. without anyone (like the Governors brother) getting part of the take. But when we're fighting wars and cutting taxes for the wealthiest Americans, it's hard to get anything done whether it's public or private sector. The money isn't going to be there either way.

Well, if the wealthiest Americans and Americans in general weren't taxed so much there wouldn't be a war machine to worry about. The wealthiest Americians are unvoluntarily paying for war and yet you want to raise their taxes so we can invade Syria and Iran...

That's what it sounds like.