Rice: U.S. May Still Be In Iraq In 10 Years

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • blueturk
    Veteran
    • Jul 2004
    • 1883

    Rice: U.S. May Still Be In Iraq In 10 Years

    Rice: U.S. May Still Be in Iraq in 10 Years
    By ANNE GEARAN, AP Diplomatic Writer

    Wednesday, October 19, 2005

    (10-19) 15:18 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --


    Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice declined on Wednesday to rule out American forces still being needed in Iraq a decade from now. Senators warned that the Bush administration must play it straight with the public or risk losing public support for the war.


    Pushed by senators from both parties to define the limits of U.S. involvement in Iraq and the Middle East, Rice also declined to rule out the use of military force in Iran or Syria, although she said the administration prefers diplomacy.


    "I don't think the president ever takes any of his options off the table concerning anything to do with military force," Rice said.


    Rice appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations committee for only the second time since members gave her an unexpectedly tepid endorsement to replace Colin Powell in January, and she fielded pointed questions about U.S. intentions and commitment on Iraq from lawmakers who said they are hearing complaints at home.


    "Our country is sick at heart at the spin and false expectations," Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., told Rice. "They want the truth and they deserve it."


    Rice said Iraq's police and Army forces are becoming better able to handle the country's security without U.S. help, and she repeated President Bush's warning that setting a timetable for withdrawal plays into terrorists' hands.


    "The terrorists want us to get discouraged and quit," Rice said. "They believe we do not have the will to see this through."


    Rice said the United States will follow a model that was successful in Afghanistan. Starting next month, she said, joint diplomatic-military groups — called Provincial Reconstruction Teams — will work alongside Iraqis as they train police, set up courts, and help local governments establish essential services.


    By State Department design, Rice testified before the committee just days after Iraq apparently approved its first constitution since a U.S.-led coalition ousted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein in 2003. Her appearance also coincided with the start of Saddam's trial in Baghdad for a 1982 massacre of 150 of his fellow Iraqis.


    Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., agreed with the Bush administration's stay-the-course approach but said there are legitimate questions to ask about the future.


    "We should recognize that most Americans are focused on an exit strategy in Iraq," said Lugar, the Foreign Relations Committee chairman. "Even if withdrawal timelines are deemed unwise because they might provide a strategic advantage to the insurgency, the American people need to more fully understand the basis upon which our troops are likely to come home."


    An AP-Ipsos poll this month found 61 percent of respondents disapprove of Bush's handling of Iraq while 32 percent said they approve. In August, 53 percent said the United States made a mistake by going to war while 43 percent said it was the right decision.


    The figures represent a sharp drop-off from strong support for the war in the early going. The war also had overwhelming support in Congress, including from most of Rice's questioners Wednesday.


    "One thing the Vietnam generation learned is no foreign policy can be sustained without the informed consent of the American people. And we haven't gotten that informed consent in terms of them knowing what they're signing on to from here on out," Sen. Joseph P. Biden Jr., D-Del., told Rice. "So I'm not looking for a date to get out of Iraq. But at what point, assuming the strategy works, do you think we'll be able to see some sign of bringing some American forces home?"


    Rice did not address the Vietnam comparison, and said the question of withdrawal is one for military planners.


    "I really don't want to hazard what I think would be a guess, even if it were an assessment, of when that might be possible," Rice said of a troop withdrawal.


    Later, Sen. Paul Sarbanes, D-Md., told Rice that her response to questions about U.S. troop withdrawal leaves open the possibility that U.S. forces could be in Iraq five or even 10 years down the road. Rice did not dispute that.


    "I don't know how to speculate about what will happen 10 years from now, but I do believe that we are moving on a course on which Iraqi security forces are rather rapidly able to take care of their own security concerns," Rice responded.


    Boxer read quotation after quotation from administration figures about Iraq, including Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's February 2003 prediction that the war could "last six days, six weeks, I doubt six months," to make the point that the war has not gone as the administration predicted.


    Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, read portions of a letter from a father who lost a son in Iraq. The letter called the war a "misguided effort."


    "We have to really level with the American people," Voinovich told Rice. "This is not going to be over in two years ... we're not going to just be able to walk out of Iraq and this is going to be over."
  • Terry
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jan 2004
    • 12126

    #2
    It's starting to dawn on people that there wasn't much planning for how we would disengage ourselves from Iraq before the troops went in.

    Shit, as long as we get shit there and in the surrounding regions stabilized and keep the oil coming, whatever.

    And I'll tell you something else. Am gettin' pretty tired hearing whining from those serving in the Armed Forces about how long the troops have been over there. The possible eventualities of a soldier should have been considered by those individuals BEFORE they VOLUNTARILY were inducted.

    Nevertheless, IF Iraq emerges as a democratic nation (is there such a thing?), then MAYBE it will have been worth it. Tend to think it's gonna end up being swapping Saddam for a group of dictators when all is said and done.

    Finally, regardless of whatever retroactive reasoning one cares to apply, the premises under which America entered that country have been proven demonstrably false, and the whole thing stinks of ineptitude at the very least...and outright prevarication at the worst.
    Scramby eggs and bacon.

    Comment

    • thome
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Mar 2005
      • 6678

      #3
      Wierds me out how people Hook you in with the way they write things.

      Declined to rule out- is a way of changing the fact that she did not answer the Question.That was asked so now the reporter changes
      the whole meaning to say- to most people," Rice sais Us Army "Will"
      be in Irak for another 10 yrs".

      How cool is that ?

      Comment

      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59618

        #4
        Either put Jenna & Tonic on the front lines, or end the occupation.
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

        Comment

        • blueturk
          Veteran
          • Jul 2004
          • 1883

          #5
          Originally posted by thome
          Wierds me out how people Hook you in with the way they write things.

          Declined to rule out- is a way of changing the fact that she did not answer the Question.That was asked so now the reporter changes
          the whole meaning to say- to most people," Rice sais Us Army "Will"
          be in Irak for another 10 yrs".

          How cool is that ?
          You've got a point, but surely to God if everything's going according to plan then Condi should easily be able to laugh at a 10 year timetable. And the headline reads "may still", not "will".

          Comment

          • thome
            ROTH ARMY ELITE
            • Mar 2005
            • 6678

            #6
            Can't put a time limit on War or, Hell is whithout end in sight.

            I see your point also .

            If you could predict a ending or schedual a end to tyranny. I rather wish saddam was never born.Its Impossible.

            Comment

            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49567

              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              Either put Jenna & Tonic on the front lines, or end the occupation.
              They'd be a virtual 24-hour a day USHO show.

              Comment

              • thome
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Mar 2005
                • 6678

                #8
                I always wonderd what Mid-Easter- Turd -American- Hateing- Terrorists.

                Trully, inside thought of some, Top-Notch- Grade -A -Choice- American
                Pussy.

                Do they want some? do they get some and lie about it? or do they trully see it as Decadent and want to blow it up.?

                Off subject But what the hey.

                Comment

                • twonabomber
                  formerly F A T
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 11294

                  #9
                  under the burkas, the 17 virgins have mustaches, hairy legs, and pimply asses.
                  Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

                  Comment

                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 59618

                    #10
                    Originally posted by thome
                    I always wonderd what Mid-Easter- Turd -American- Hateing- Terrorists.

                    Trully, inside thought of some, Top-Notch- Grade -A -Choice- American
                    Pussy.

                    Do they want some? do they get some and lie about it? or do they trully see it as Decadent and want to blow it up.?

                    Off subject But what the hey.
                    Supposedly, when they found Easy and Queasy Hussein's hideout and allegedly killed them, they were said to have pictures of the Bushettes all over their walls.

                    So the little Saddamlettes wanked off to thoughts of BCE pussy. Pretty weird huh?
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

                    Comment

                    Working...