the top ten liberal lies

[Cathedral]

Record Deficits, what more needs to be pointed out?

Besides, what Johnson had in the budget was a piggy bank compared to what W has his hands in.
It isn't about who is more or less conservative, it's about who was more irrisponsible with the spending.

Domestic issues are going to grow in the next 3 years and the next Admin. regardless of which party is in, will have no choice but to raise taxes to make up for the damage this less than conservative administration has spent us into.

[ELVIS]

Same thing was said over and over during the Reagan administration...

[Warham]

That's fine, Cat. We were used to high taxes when Clinton was president. Liberals loved those eight years, so they should have no problem giving the federal government more money when taxes are raised again. Consider it a tribute to the Clinton years. :D

[ELVIS]

C'mon Cat...

[FORD]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Same thing was said over and over during the Reagan administration...

And Reagan & Poppy devastated the economy as a result. By the time Poppy was done, the economy was in the worst shape it had ever been since the Depression - at least up until that point.

Clinton was able to dig us out of that hole. Who will dig us out of the Marianas Trench that Junior has left us in?

[ELVIS]

Oh bullshit!

Clinton was handed a robust economy and you know it...

The dot com invasion lended to the surplus he bragged about...

He responded by persuing Microsoft...

Bill Clinton was a failure...

[Warham]

Reagan had to dig us out of the crap economy and sky high interest rates during the Carter administration.

[Warham]

'During the Reagan presidency, the inflation rate dropped from 13.6% in 1980 (President Carter's final year in office) to 4.1% by 1988, the economy added 16,753,000 jobs and the unemployment rate fell from 7.5% to 5.3%'

That's one of the many reasons everybody loved Ronnie. :D

[ELVIS]

Don't tell FORD that...

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by FORD
And Reagan & Poppy devastated the economy as a result. By the time Poppy was done, the economy was in the worst shape it had ever been since the Depression - at least up until that point.

Clinton was able to dig us out of that hole. Who will dig us out of the Marianas Trench that Junior has left us in?

Whoa right there, that shit doesn't wash at all, bro.
It was because of what Reagan did that Clinton inherited a robust economy, that sack of shit didn't do anything but ride the tails of what Reagan did in Washington.
That is why our economy was heading back towards the shitter when his two terms were over.

Sorry, but you aren't allowed to take credit for the rewards Reagan sacrifices reaped.

But i'll give Slick Willie one thing, he taxed the hell out of us to pay of the debt, but then he started stock piling money that wasn't Washington's to keep and they called it a what?, a surplus.

Clinton wasn't totally useless, but to credit him for the years of growth and prosperity that he had nothing to do with is rediculous.

My problem is that with all the spending this Bush Administration has done, none of it went to domestic issues.
We will pay a price for this group who has been focused on nothing but foreign policy while things at home sit and stew, getting worse.

You'll see, the next few years will be telling of what our greart and wise Chimp in Charge has done for us here at home.

One sign already evident is job growth, where there was absolutely none in the bread and butter areas of our country, that being manufacturing.
But Bush surely saw to it that next years numbers will be lower as with every following year after that because of the NAFTA exapansion called CAFTA.

Hey, if nationwide bankrupcty is what you want, Bush was your man.
I prefer a Conservative that knows the definition of the word because like my father always told me growing up..."Money does not grow on trees."

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Record Deficits, what more needs to be pointed out?

Besides, what Johnson had in the budget was a piggy bank compared to what W has his hands in.
It isn't about who is more or less conservative, it's about who was more irrisponsible with the spending.

Domestic issues are going to grow in the next 3 years and the next Admin. regardless of which party is in, will have no choice but to raise taxes to make up for the damage this less than conservative administration has spent us into.

Extenuating circumstances need to be pointed out, that's what.

Yeah, the war has cost a butt-load.

So has the hurricanes.

And the airline bail-outs.

And homeland security.....etc



All unanticipated.

[Cathedral]

Bush isn't the first Prez to have to deal with extenuating circumstances.
In fact, the unexpected should always be expected, especially if you go to war without a plan to win the peace.

Homeland Security is a joke, see the Hurricanes for proof of that. that whole organization has far different priorities though, so i'm not surprised how they have performed in an actual emergancy.
How many departments of first responders are still bitching that no funds have gotten to them yet?
It was spent, where did it go? it's been almost 4 years...

Bush is guilty of wasting money, not just spending it, wasting it.
There is nothing fiscally conservative about him and i refuse to ignore it.

By the way, Airlines should be able to solve their own problems or shut their fucking doors.
I don't fly and i don't ship by air, so i really have no use for commercial airlines in any way.
If they want to survive then they should try merging with each other and help each other stay in the air, it's not my responsibility to "bail them out" with a penny of my tax dollars.

The Hurricanes are all i'm giving you on this, Triple B, lol.

[Warham]

You'd think the libs would like a Republican president who's a big spender. I guess not.

[Cathedral]

Oh, i do want to point out a cool thing Bush is doing for the families of service men and women that purchased armor and sent it to their kids.
They were reimbursed the money they spent on it.

I just thought that was a cool thing to do.
An apology for the troops not being better equipped would have been nice too, but take what you can get, right?

[ELVIS]

What's that I hear ??

That's right, nothing...