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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    French government in crisis mode

    French government in crisis mode
    By JOCELYN GECKER

    Wednesday, November 2, 2005 Posted at 4:42 PM EST

    Associated Press and Canadian Press

    Paris — France's government went into crisis mode Wednesday to deal with spreading rioting in the suburbs of Paris, with the Prime Minister postponing a trip to Canada and the President calling for calm.

    In tough northeastern suburbs around Clichy-sous-Bois, where the accidental deaths of two teenagers last week first prompted angry youths to rampage, the hulks of burned-out cars littered streets and young men prepared for a seventh consecutive night of fighting with riot police.

    Leaders at Clichy-sous-Bois' mosque prayed for peace and asked parents to keep teenagers off the streets.

    The violence, which spread to at least nine Paris-region towns overnight Tuesday, laid bare the despair, anger and deep-rooted criminality in France's poor, unemployment-hit suburbs — some of them ghettos where police hesitate to venture despite proof they are fertile terrain for Islamic extremists, drug dealers and racketeers.


    The unrest, concentrated in neighbourhoods with large African and Muslim populations, has highlighted the difficulties many European countries face with immigrant communities feeling marginalized and restive, cut off from Europe's prosperity and, for some extremists, its values.

    "They have no work. They have nothing to do. Put yourself in their place," said Abderrahmane Bouhout, president of the Clichy-sous-Bois mosque, where a tear gas grenade exploded Sunday, fuelling the anger of local youths who suspected a police attack. Authorities are investigating the incident.

    To deal with the unrest, Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin postponed a visit to Canada and Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy cancelled a Nov. 6-9 trip to Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    In Ottawa, Melanie Gruer, a spokeswoman for Prime Minister Paul Martin, said Mr. Villepin's visit will be rescheduled. The Canadian government is disappointed but understands the postponement, she said.

    French President Jacques Chirac, meanwhile, told a weekly cabinet meeting that "the law must be applied firmly" but "in a spirit of dialogue and respect" to prevent "a dangerous situation" from developing. He acknowledged the "profound frustrations" of troubled neighbourhoods but said violence is not the answer.

    "Zones without law cannot exist in the republic," he said.

    The violence cast doubt on the success of France's model of seeking to integrate its large immigrant community by playing down differences between ethnic groups.

    France's Muslim population, at an estimated five million, is Western Europe's largest. Rather than embraced as equal citizens, immigrants and their French-born children often complain of police harassment and of being refused jobs, housing and opportunities.

    Eric, a 22-year-old in Clichy-sous-Bois born in France to Moroccan parents, said police target young people with dark skin. He said he has been unable to find full-time work for two years and that the riots were a demonstration of suburban solidarity.

    "People are joining together to say we've had enough," he said. He refused to give his surname, saying that talking to reporters was poorly regarded in his neighbourhood. "We live in ghettos," he added. "Everyone lives in fear."

    Many immigrant families are trapped in low-cost housing projects built to accommodate foreign labourers after the Second World War, but which have since succumbed to chronic unemployment and lawlessness. In some neighbourhoods, drug dealers and racketeers hold sway and Islamic radicals seek to recruit disenchanted youths, experts say.

    "French society is in a bad state ... increasingly unequal, increasingly segregated, and increasingly divided along ethnic and racial lines," said sociologist Manuel Boucher. Some youths turn to Islam to claim an identity that is not French, "to seize on something which gives them back their individual and collective dignity."

    Successive governments have injected funds and job-creation schemes but failed to resolve the problems.

    "No matter what the politicians say, some neighbourhoods are all but lost," said Patrice Ribeiro, national secretary of the Synergie police officers' union. "Police patrols pass through but without stopping and with their windows rolled up."

    In Aulnay-sous-Bois, another northeastern suburb where riot police fired rubber bullets at advancing gangs of youths Tuesday, workers cleaned up charred debris and menacing young men smoked cigarettes in doorways. A group of teenagers chased and threw stones at Associated Press reporters.

    "I am afraid. I have children. I have never seen anything like this here," said Aulnay resident Houcine Yahiaoui. "I was watching from my windows last night as kids were burning cars."

    Police said 180 vehicles were torched across the Paris region, most of them in the Seine-Saint-Denis region that includes Clichy, Aulnay and other violence-hit neighbourhoods. Police made 35 arrests in Seine-Saint-Denis.

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  • BITEYOASS
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2004
    • 6530

    #2
    Easy solution, send em to saudi arabia since they want religious freedom. This is a good example of why the national guard should help in controlling the US Border in order to keep this from happening.

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32942

      #3
      France is the typical European country with an aging population. They let African and Middle East immigrants in to do the work the French don't want to do or can't do because of a shortage of young people. Of course differences in religion, language, education, and economic standing creates chasms between the people. Too many of them always creates a revolution scenero. Yup, the same situation is brewing in the United States as well.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • BITEYOASS
        ROTH ARMY ELITE
        • Jan 2004
        • 6530

        #4
        Fuck, I say you all should knock up your wives more often! :D Do it for your country, and ditch the expensive car or motorbike.

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        • Dr. Love
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Jan 2004
          • 7833

          #5
          Originally posted by Nitro Express
          France is the typical European country with an aging population. They let African and Middle East immigrants in to do the work the French don't want to do or can't do because of a shortage of young people. Of course differences in religion, language, education, and economic standing creates chasms between the people. Too many of them always creates a revolution scenero. Yup, the same situation is brewing in the United States as well.
          I had read a few years back that the birth rate in France was lower than the death rate, and that the abortion rate was very high.

          I don't know if that's true, but it would imply that they are killing themselves off over time.
          I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

          http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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          • DrMaddVibe
            ROTH ARMY ELITE
            • Jan 2004
            • 6686

            #6
            And that's supposed to be a bad thing?
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            • Millermoos
              Head Fluffer
              • Aug 2005
              • 309

              #7
              France is the typical European country with an aging population. They let African and Middle East immigrants in to do the work the French don't want to do or can't do because of a shortage of young people. Of course differences in religion, language, education, and economic standing creates chasms between the people. Too many of them always creates a revolution scenario. Yup, the same situation is brewing in the United States as well.

              Really is this happening in the USA as well? Historically the French government does not like to be challenged, you don't challenge the State, that's why they are having problems cos they have a zero tollerance attitude furthermore the once who are causing troubles are north africans mainly Muslim, the majority of crimes on a daily basis are actually committed by them unfortunately so they don't get the simpathy from the average French . I mean you have the same problems in other European countries but not with the same results.
              Millermoos

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              • Millermoos
                Head Fluffer
                • Aug 2005
                • 309

                #8
                I wanted to add that I understand why the kids are using violents against the french government and that being second or generation immigrants and feeling they are not intergreted within the system cos of luck of jobs and cultural, religious, differences etc but at the same time I understand the average French that complains about being physically attacked or car broken into and they are fed up.
                I mean when I went on holiday in Paris I had not a nice experience when I came out of the Gard du Nord. I was trying to find a taxi and being, dyslexic, English + a gal with no french and on my own did not help: I was suddently approached by two Algerians, I kept walking thinking what am I going to do here, I can't get read of those two guys anyway one of the two touched my arm so I kind of pull backwards and I told him to f. off in English and I dashed into the nearest Bar where luckily I found the guy behind the bar that spoke little English and helped me out. It is really intimidating if you walking down a street and you see loads of Arabs looking down on you and making remarks ( like it happened to me when I was on holiday in France), I don't see why one should put up with that type of crap in their own country especially if you are a gal.
                After that experience I decided to take up martial art and general self defence class I feel more confident now.
                Millermoos

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                • BITEYOASS
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 6530

                  #9
                  send em back to damn algeria for all I care, didn't France have a war with that damn country? And if algerians hated the french so much, then why did they immigrating there?!?!? If the french want to survive then they should fuck more often and pop out more kids.

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                  • DrMaddVibe
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6686

                    #10
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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32942

                      #11
                      Everyone seems to hate the French after awhile. The Vietmese had no love for them and even the United States views France how Poland was viewed a few dacades ago. You would think France and the US would have better relations since it was France that helped us beat the British in the American Revolution and they gave us the Statue of Liberty. something happened down the road and now France seems to be all by itself.

                      I've been to France many times. The people in the smaller cities and rural areas are the nicest people you could meet. French cookware, knives, trains, airplanes, and outdoor equipment are some of the best in the world. In Paris, people are rude as hell but it's been that way for a long time.

                      France in general seems to have corrupt politicians but who doesn't? They are proud of their culture and guard it against change. France it take us the way we are or fuck you! Amazingly, Americans and the French have a lot in common and maybe that is why we hate each other so much.

                      One thing for sure, immigration is only an asset if the people who come in are law abiding and industriouse. Immigration can also import poverty and crime. What's going on in France is a giant wake up call for other countries.

                      It's a hard lesson on the best way to preserve your way of life is to fill our wives full of cum and to raise the children well. If the family unit degrades, the country goes with it. Not having children and filling the void with third world immigrants, turns the whole country into a third world country. Fucking is good.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49563

                        #12
                        Sometimes it seems that the only reason people hate France is because they've been told to by FAUX Spews and because the French were smart enough no to get bogged down into a guerilla war in IRAQ.

                        Apparently, they learned their lessons for ALGERIA and VIETNAM. We didn't...

                        So what is the purpose of this thread? To bash the FRENCH as they struggle with "ISLAMOFASCISM?"

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                        • BITEYOASS
                          ROTH ARMY ELITE
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 6530

                          #13
                          People should remember that european countries are not melting pots for muslims and never will be. Especially when they tried to take over europe in the 9'th century, which made the crusades neccessary. They just move to a foreign country and breed like crazy, choking out a national culture of wherever they immigrated to.

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                          • Phil theStalker
                            Full Member Status

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 3843

                            #14
                            I heard the French surrendered.


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                            • Phil theStalker
                              Full Member Status

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 3843

                              #15
                              Honestly, I feel sorry f4or the French right now. It's 3:00am in Paris right now and Mahmoud is burning a car.




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