Michael Moore Owns Haliburton Stock

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
Bill O'Reilly's answer to your answer...

'The spin (waving his hand around) stops right here.'

Every word out of Bill O' Lielly's mouth is spin.

[Warham]

Michael Moore is a cunt. A fat cunt who talks out of both sides of his mouth.

[FORD]

Originally posted by diamondD
Here's the fact:

Michael Moore is a money hungry hypocritical piece of shit who you'll defend no matter what to save face.

That's not a fact. It's your opinion. And you're wrong.

Would you defend him if I posted quotes of him slamming Howard Dean? I wonder which side you would take on that.

That, again, would be opinion. I can't recall Moore saying anything too inflammatory about Dr. Dean in the 2004 campaign, except maybe implying he wasn't "liberal enough".

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
Rush Limbaugh is a cunt. A fat cunt who talks out of both sides of his mouth.

[Warham]

Michael Moore is just as eeeeeeevil as Dick Cheney.

They must do pagan sacrifices at the same place on Friday nights.

[Hardrock69]

Yeah while Dick Cheney fucks Moore in the ass.....

:D

[UGS]

Originally posted by FORD
A shareholder is entitled to inside information on a company (budget reports, etc.) that an outsider simply can't get access to. Given the fact that investigative journalism and exposing corporate abuses is what Moore does for a living, what better way to get an inside picture of the company at the heart of BCE corruption?

You don't need to own 2000 shares to be entitled to that information.

[diamondD]

Originally posted by FORD
That, again, would be opinion. I can't recall Moore saying anything too inflammatory about Dr. Dean in the 2004 campaign, except maybe implying he wasn't "liberal enough".

How am I wrong about him being a hypocrite FORD. He bought Haliburton stock because he knew it would make him more money. Why is my opinion more wrong than yours?

[BITEYOASS]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
That is true.

But then, that is the point of that book.

Lotsa examples of people bitching about companies in public, while making money off those same companies.



I have been perceived as a liberal because I bash Bush and his pack of thieves and murderers so much.

Hey I trashed Uncle Bill a lot when he was in office, but then, we were not in Iraq at the time.


I will continue to trash Bush because A) That is his job, to be the poster boy of the U.S., attracting praise when he does well, and attracting the wrath of people when he is fucking up, which seems to be his specialty, and B) He is a dumbass loser who is only in office due to the machinations of Poppy.

Worthless Fuck.

It is Cheney who needs to get out of office. I have the feeling he is the one really running the show....

AMEN! :D

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Originally posted by diamondD
How am I wrong about him being a hypocrite FORD. He bought Haliburton stock because he knew it would make him more money. Why is my opinion more wrong than yours?

As I said, it's always possible that any money he makes from the allegedly owned shares (NewsHax and Fascist Nut Daily are notorious for getting their facts wrong) are donated to anti-war charities. If he was keeping such money for himself, then the issueof hypocrisy could be raised.

It would be ironic as Hell if Cheneyburton Inc actually ended up financing Moore's next movie despite themselves though, you have to admit.

[diamondD]

You're just spinning and hoping. You just want to believe that money is going to charity. Give me an ounce of proof, not tons of theories. Otherwise, he's a hypocritical fuck.

[UGS]

That's basically what Moby did. . .some car companies wanted his music for some ad etc etc. . .he didn't want to sell out, but they would have used the song anyway, so he took their money and donated it to organizations working against the auto industry. . .

That's just the jist of it, perhaps someone else knows more of the details than I do.

[diamondD]

That's different. Haliburton wasn't going to use anything of Michael Moore's. He BOUGHT their stock and profited from it.

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by FORD
As I said, it's always possible that any money he makes from the allegedly owned shares (NewsHax and Fascist Nut Daily are notorious for getting their facts wrong) are donated to anti-war charities. If he was keeping such money for himself, then the issueof hypocrisy could be raised.

It would be ironic as Hell if Cheneyburton Inc actually ended up financing Moore's next movie despite themselves though, you have to admit.

Spin cunt spin!

You can't have it BOTH ways!

[DrMaddVibe]

Filmmaker Michael Moore has made a career out of trashing corporations and said he doesn't own any stocks due to moral principle.

How then did author Peter Schweizer uncover IRS documents showing that Moore's very own foundation has bought stocks in some of America's largest corporations – including Halliburton, other defense contractors and some of the same companies he has attacked?

In his blockbuster new book "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy," Hoover Fellow Schweizer reveals the glaring contradictions between the public stances and real-life behavior of prominent liberals including Al Franken, Ralph Nader, Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. [Editor's Note: NewsMax has a free offer for "Do As I Say" – Go Here Now.]

But he reserves some of his sharpest barbs for Moore.

In his first documentary "Roger & Me," Moore skewered General Motors, Schweizer points out.

# In "The Big One," he went after Nike and PayDay candy bars.

# "Bowling for Columbine" was an attack on the American gun industry.

# Oil companies played a major role in "Fahrenheit 911."

# His upcoming film "Sicko" pillories drug companies and HMOs.

# On his television shows "TV Nation" and "The Awful Truth," he criticized HMOs and defense contractors.

He once said that major defense contractor Halliburton was run by a bunch of "thugs," and suggested that for every American killed in the Iraq war, "I would like Halliburton to slay one mid-level executive."

Publicly, Moore has claimed he wants no part of these companies and won't own stock.

In his book "Stupid White Men," he wrote: "I don't own a single share of stock."

He repeated the claim in a 1997 letter to the online magazine Salon, saying: "I don't own any stock."

Privately, however, he tells the IRS a different story, Schweizer discloses in his book.

The year that Moore claimed in "Stupid White Men" that he didn't own any stock, he told the IRS that a foundation totally controlled by Moore and his wife had more than $280,000 in corporate stock and nearly $100,000 in corporate bonds.

Over the past five years, Moore's holdings have "included such evil pharmaceutical and medical companies as Pfizer, Merck, Genzyme, Elan PLC, Eli Lilly, Becton Dickinson and Boston Scientific," writes Schweizer, whose earlier works include "The Bushes" and "Reagan's War."

"Moore's supposedly nonexistent portfolio also includes big bad energy giants like Sunoco, Noble Energy, Schlumberger, Williams Companies, Transocean Sedco Forex and Anadarko, all firms that 'deplete irreplaceable fossil fuels in the name of profit' as he put it in ‘Dude, Where's My Country?'

"And in perhaps the ultimate irony, he also has owned shares in Halliburton. According to IRS filings, Moore sold Halliburton for a 15 percent profit and bought shares in Noble, Ford, General Electric (another defense contractor), AOL Time Warner (evil corporate media) and McDonald's.

"Also on Moore's investment menu: defense contractors Honeywell, Boeing and Loral."

Does Moore share the stock proceeds of his "foundation" with charitable causes, you might ask?

Schweizer found that "for a man who by 2002 had a net worth in eight figures, he gave away a modest $36,000 through the foundation, much of it to his friends in the film business or tony cultural organizations that later provided him with venues to promote his books and film."

Moore's hypocrisy doesn't end with his financial holdings.

He has criticized the journalism industry and Hollywood for their lack of African-Americans in prominent positions, and in 1998 he said he personally wanted to hire minorities "who come from the working class."

In "Stupid White Men," he proclaimed his plans to "hire only black people."

But when Schweizer checked the senior credits for Moore's latest film "Fahrenheit 911," he found that of the movie's 14 producers, three editors, production manager and production coordinator, all 19 were white. So were all three cameramen and the two people who did the original music.

On "Bowling for Columbine," 13 of the 14 producers were white, as were the two executives in charge of production, the cameramen, the film editor and the music composer.

His show "TV Nation" had 13 producers, four film editors and 10 writers – but not a single African-American among them.

And as for Moore's insistence on portraying himself as "working class" and an "average Joe," Schweizer recounts this anecdote:

"When Moore flew to London to visit people at the BBC or promote a film, he took the Concorde and stayed at the Ritz. But he also allegedly booked a room at a cheap hotel down the street where he could meet with journalists and pose as a ‘man of humble circumstances.'"

That's hypocrisy with a capital H!