Chimp Declares US Doesn't Torture !!!

[LoungeMachine]

We do not torture: Bush
Last Updated Mon, 07 Nov 2005 11:10:09 EST
CBC News


U.S. President George W. Bush is defending the way his administration interrogates suspected terrorists, denying the U.S. engages in torture.

Bush was being questioned by a reporter on whether he supports the efforts of Vice-President Dick Cheney. Cheney has been lobbying Republican senators to allow for a legal exemption to allow torture for those held by the CIA if preventing an attack is at stake.

The U.S Senate last month approved a ban on torture by a 90-9 vote. The White House may veto the ban.

But Bush did not address the question about his support for a torture exemption directly, saying only the administration would work within the law.

"Our country is at war and our government has the obligation to protect the American people," Bush said at a news conference with Panama's President Martin Torrijos.

"And we are aggressively doing that. We are finding terrorists and bringing them to justice."

"Anything we do to that end in this effort, any activity we conduct, is within the law. We do not torture."

Bush's comments come days after it was disclosed that the CIA is running a network of prisons in eastern Europe and Asia, where it holds suspects.

[Hardrock69]

Christamighty.

He fucking DENIES THE U.S. TORTURES PRISONERS, AND THE GODDAMNED ABU GHRAIB PRISON SCANDAL HAS NOT EVEN DIED OFF YET??????

WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT!!!!

[LoungeMachine]

He lives in Chimpworld.

[Hardrock69]

No fucking shit....

[FORD]

How long before he starts flinging shit at press conferences?

[Hardrock69]

LMFAO!!!

[BigBadBrian]

I personally don't have a problem with torture.

Under the right circumstances.

Some serious information can be extracted under the duress of PAIN.

Anyone here who thinks torture will ever go away as a means of gathering intelligence on one's adversaries is deluded.

[LoungeMachine]

not the point, bri.....

[weesfreewheelin]

Relax girls. Its called creative persuasion what would you expect him to say And yes, we americans can be as brutal and ruthless, as a good infidel should

[lesfunk]

The U.S. Doesn't torture?
What the fuck do I pay taxes for then?!

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by lesfunk
The U.S. Doesn't torture?
What the fuck do I pay taxes for then?!

Case studies on cow farts.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I personally don't have a problem with torture.

Under the right circumstances.

Some serious information can be extracted under the duress of PAIN.
....

Yeah, much like your posts, some "serious" bullshit!

Most US Pilots that were shot down over VIETNAM, and that were tortured as POWs, (like Sen. McCAIN, no surprise) will tell you that torture doesn't really work. You get as much bullshit out of someone as you do truth...

For instance, if you ask a very specific question that you want a predetermined answer for, you're just going to torture someone enough to tell you what you want them to say and what they think, or know, you want to hear.

Plus, you can torture the guys at GITMO all you want, but when they were essentially the privates and sergeants in the operation, they really know nothing of any use to begin with, don't they?

In most of the serious cases of torture applied by the US I've read abbout, I've repeatedly heard that we gathered surprisingly little in the way of usable information, before the suspects either went nuts or died.

P.S.- That being said, I myself am not against some "hard-cell" interrogation techniques being used in very specific circumstances against the very few, known high ranking operatives in al Qaida and the like. But this blanket protection crap for the CIA is bogus! And what has gone on at Gitmo and Abu Ghraib is a sickening outrage that has only contributed to the deaths of Americans, not stopped them.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Yeah, much like your posts, some "serious" bullshit!

Most US Pilots that were shot down over VIETNAM, and that were tortured as POWs, (like Sen. McCAIN, no surprise) will tell you that torture doesn't really work. You get as much bullshit out of someone as you do truth...

For instance, if you ask a very specific question that you want a predetermined answer for, you're just going to torture someone enough to tell you what you want them to say and what they think, or know, you want to hear.

Plus, you can torture the guys at GITMO all you want, but when they were essentially the privates and sergeants in the operation, they really know nothing of any use to begin with, don't they?

In most of the serious cases of torture applied by the US I've read abbout, I've repeatedly heard that we gathered surprisingly little in the way of usable information, before the suspects either went nuts or died.

P.S.- That being said, I myself am not against some "hard-cell" interrogation techniques being used in very specific circumstances against the very few, known high ranking operatives in al Qaida and the like. But this blanket protection crap for the CIA is bogus! And what has gone on at Gitmo and Abu Ghraib is a sickening outrage that has only contributed to the deaths of Americans, not stopped them.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian

As DEMON CUNT used to say, "another banner post from BIGBLANDBRIAN..."

[Hardrock69]

No shit.

I had a friend who spent 2 years in a Vietnamese POW camp.

His fingers were all broken.



I do think that torture should be allowed for serial murderers, and pedophiles.

But that is not a "blanket" permission, and is a different arena than POWs.