Dubya Starts The " I Didn't Lie To Justify The War" Tour

[FORD]

Wrong forum, AssVibe. And I knew Courtney was a cunt before you even knew her name.

[Hardrock69]

Well, despite the fact that it is to be expected David Kusnet would attack Bush, his points are valid, and of course he is speaking from his professional point-of-view as a Presidential Speechwriter (never mind his politicial leanings...it was a great history lesson in what Presidents of the past 40 years have traditionally said while making speeches in general).

How many more speeches will Chimpy make in this "campaign" before his handlers realize he is only accelerating his political downfall by opening up his nonsensical retarded mouth???

[Hardrock69]

Haha Dr. Vibe is making a lame attempt to emulate Chimpy by using irrelevance as a tool...

[DrMaddVibe]

Haha...I'm laughing AT you and not your lame attempt at humor!

[blueturk]

Originally posted by Hardrock69


How many more speeches will Chimpy make in this "campaign" before his handlers realize he is only accelerating his political downfall by opening up his nonsensical retarded mouth???

No matter how badly things go, Bush will insist that he is right and everybody who disagrees with him is wrong. Watch for even lower approval ratings...



" As you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Oct. 28, 2003

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
This just in....Courtney Love is a fucking cunt...film @ 11!

So hip, so clever

Your cutting edge humor sure has thrown us off track of your moronic leader's stupidity.


Don't quit your day job.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Haha...I'm laughing AT you and not your lame attempt at humor!

We're rubber and you're glue....


Little wonder you're a Chimpsucker

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by FORD
Wrong forum, AssVibe. And I knew Courtney was a cunt before you even knew her name.

but it was just so biting and edgy......


The exclamation point was what really made it funny

[blueturk]

National Security Adviser Hadley: "Turns Out, We Were Wrong" - No Shit...

Bush Didn't Mislead on War, Adviser Says

By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL
The Associated Press
Sunday, November 13, 2005; 3:26 PM

WASHINGTON -- While admitting "we were wrong" about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, President Bush's national security adviser on Sunday rejected assertions that the president manipulated intelligence and misled the American people.

Bush relied on the collective judgment of the intelligence community when he determined that Iraq's Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, national security adviser Stephen Hadley said.

"Turns out, we were wrong," Hadley told "Late Edition" on CNN. "But I think the point that needs to be emphasized ... allegations now that the president somehow manipulated intelligence, somehow misled the American people, are flat wrong."

Republican lawmakers and other officials who appeared on Sunday news shows echoed Bush's Veterans Day speech in which he defended his decision to invade Iraq.

Bush said Democrats in Congress had the same intelligence about Iraq, and he argued that many now claiming that the information had been manipulated had supported going to war. The president also accused his critics of making false charges and playing politics with the war.

Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean rejected the criticism on Sunday and said, "The truth is, the president misled America when he sent us to war."

Appearing on NBC's "Meet the Press," the party chairman disputed Bush's claim that Congress had the same information _ the president withheld some intelligence and some caveats about it, Dean said _ and that two commissions had found no evidence of pressure being placed on those within the intelligence community .

In fact, Dean said, how the administration handled the intelligence it received has yet to be determined by a Senate committee.

Contending that the president has not been honest about the size of the deficit as well as the war, Dean said, "This is an administration that has a fundamental problem telling the truth."

Hadley said Bush received dissenting views about the accuracy of intelligence and relied on the collective judgment of the intelligence community as conveyed by the CIA director. The national security adviser criticized those who continue to claim that Bush manipulated the intelligence and made misleading statements.

"It is unworthy and unfair and ill-advised, when our men and women in combat are putting their lives on the line, to relitigate an issue which was looked at by two authoritative sources and deemed closed," he said. "We need to put this debate behind us."

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said Democrats have a right to criticize the war but that it was disingenuous to claim that Bush lied about intelligence to justify it.

"Every intelligence agency in the world, including the Russians, the French ... all reached the same conclusion," McCain said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

In a column for The Washington Post, former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., said he was wrong to have voted to give Bush the authority to go to war and called the intelligence on which he made that decision "deeply flawed and, in some cases, manipulated to fit a political agenda."

"The information the American people were hearing from the president _ and that I was being given by our intelligence community _ wasn't the whole story," wrote Edwards, the Democratic nominee for vice president in 2004. "Had I known this at the time, I never would have voted for this war."

Hadley said issues about the accuracy of U.S. intelligence have not impaired the administration's ability to pursue its policies regarding the nuclear programs of Iran and North Korea.

"We've been able to move our diplomacy forward at the same time we're taking the steps we need to do to improve our intelligence," he said.

Asked why people should believe U.S. claims about the nuclear plans of Iran given the failure of intelligence about Iraq, Hadley said there has been international consensus about Iran.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/13/AR2005111300358.html

[BigBadBrian]

Re: National Security Adviser Hadley: "Turns Out, We Were Wrong" - No Shit...

Originally posted by blueturk


Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean rejected the criticism on Sunday and said, "The truth is, the president misled America when he sent us to war."

It's too bad Howard the Coward didn't want to debate his RNC counterpart on this point. Chickenshit.

[blueturk]

I'm not going to waste time defending Dean. He IS a chickenshit. But so is Dubya. Every stop on the tour (campaign?) will be in front of carefully selected sheep who will undoubtedly applaud on cue, while dissenters will be in the "Freedom Of Speech Zone" where Bush won't have to see them.

[Hardrock69]

Chickenshit perhaps, but it would have been supremely easy for him to tear apart Chimpy's speech and all the lies in it.

[DrMaddVibe]

He couldn't do it.

[Nickdfresh]

Why is HOWARD DEAN a chikenshit? 'Cause Matt "packin' fudge" DRUDGE says so?

[blueturk]

Catapulting The Propaganda


"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." —George W. Bush, Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005

Bush takes fresh shots at Iraq war critics

TERENCE HUNT

Associated Press


ELMENDORF AIR FORCE BASE, Alaska - President Bush escalated the bitter debate over the Iraq war on Monday, hurling back at Democratic critics the worries they once expressed that Saddam Hussein was a grave threat to the world.

"They spoke the truth then and they're speaking politics now," Bush charged.

Bush went on the attack after Democrats accused the president of manipulating and withholding some pre-war intelligence and misleading Americans about the rationale for war.

"Some Democrats who voted to authorize the use of force are now rewriting the past," Bush said. "They're playing politics with this issue and they are sending mixed signals to our troops and the enemy. That is irresponsible."

The president spoke to cheering troops at this military base at a refueling stop for Air Force One on the first leg of an eight-day journey to Japan, South Korea, China and Mongolia. After a Latin American trip with meager results earlier this month, the administration kept expectations low for Asia.

"I don't think you're going to see headline breakthroughs," National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said on Air Force One. He dashed any prospect that Japan would lift its ban on American beef imports during Bush's visit and said a dispute with China over trade and currency would remain an issue after the president returns home.

On Sunday, Hadley acknowledged "we were wrong" about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, but he insisted in a CNN interview that the president did not manipulate intelligence or mislead the American people.

Iraq and a host of other problems, from the bungled response to Hurricane Katrina to the indictment of a senior White House official in the CIA leak investigation, have taken a heavy toll on the president. Nearing the end of his fifth year in office, Bush has the lowest approval rating of his presidency and a majority of Americans say Bush is not honest and they disapprove of his handling of foreign policy and the war on terrorism. Heading for Asia, Bush hoped to improve his standing on the world stage.

"Reasonable people can disagree about the conduct of the war but it is irresponsible for Democrats to now claim that we misled them and the American people," Bush said.

He quoted pre-war remarks by three senior Democrats as evidence of that Democrats had shared the administration's fears that were the rationale for invading Iraq in 2003. Bush did not name them, but White House counselor Dan Bartlett filled in the blanks.

_"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va.

_"The war against terrorism will not be finished as long as (Saddam Hussein) is in power." - Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.

_"Saddam Hussein, in effect, has thumbed his nose at the world community. And I think that the president's approaching this in the right fashion." - Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

"The truth is that investigations of the intelligence on Iraq have concluded that only one person manipulated evidence and misled the world - and that person was Saddam Hussein," Bush charged.

In the Senate, 29 Democrats voted with 48 Republicans for the war authorization measure in late 2002, including 2004 Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, and his running mate, John Edwards of North Carolina. Both have recently been harshly critical of Bush's conduct of the war and its aftermath.

On Capitol Hill, top Democrats stood their ground in claiming Bush misled Congress and the country. "The war in Iraq was and remains one of the great acts of misleading and deception in American history," Kerry told a news conference.

Bush is expected to get a warmer welcome in Asia than he did earlier this month in Argentina at the Summit of the Americas, where Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez led a protest against U.S. policies and Bush failed to gain support from the 34 nations attending for a hemisphere-wide free trade zone.

Japan, the first stop on Bush's trip, and Mongolia, the last, are likely to give him the most enthusiastic response, while China and South Korea probably will be cooler but respectful.

In South Korea, Bush also will attend the Asia Pacific Economic Conference summit in Busan, where 21 member states are expected to agree to support global free-trade talks. The summit also is expected to agree to put early-warning and information-sharing systems in place in case of bird flu outbreaks.

"It is good for the president to show up in Asia and say, `We care about Asia,' because that is in doubt in the region," said Ed Lincoln, senior fellow in Asia and Economic Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations.

At Bush's first stop, in Kyoto, Japan, the president will deliver what aides bill as the speech of the trip on the power of democracy, not only to better individual lives but contribute to the long-term prosperity of nations.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/13166786.htm