Chimpy thinks he is a "king" with unlimiterd power....

[jhale667]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
what exactly is the impeachable offense -- the "high crimes and misdemeanors" required by the Constitution?

Yeah, c'mon...it's not like he got a BJ, or anything....:D

[Keeyth]

LMAO! Yeah, remember when THAT was the worst our President was doing to "hurt the country"? Good times...

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by FORD
What is impeachable is that the BCE has admitted to spying on American citizens WITHOUT the warrants required by the law. Since the FISA court has never failed to issue a warrant when requested, they have no excuses not to ask for a warrant.

Unless they knew for a fact that the FISA court would NOT issue such warrant, because the targets of the illegal investigations were not criminals or "terrorists", but political opponents of the Bush Criminal Empire.

Chimpy has admitted to committing a felony. Throw his fucking ass out!

You are wrong on a number of levels. I agree that the "spying" is probably not permitted under existing law, but the administration has a colorable argument that it has the authority to do this. Please show me a transcript where Bush admits to "committing a felony." He has admitted that his administration (not him personally) has engaged in domestic spying, but that's it.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by jhale667
Yeah, c'mon...it's not like he got a BJ, or anything....:D

I don't think Clinton should have been impeached either, but in his case at least he was charged with perjury and obstruction of justice. He was impeached for political reasons.

[diamondD]

You're such a downer for the folks living in fantasy land...

[diamondD]

Originally posted by Keeyth
Yeah, he admitted that one and we still can't make it stick.

Other than that GS, why don't we start with PLANNING and IMPLEMENTING 9-11-01?????

Oh, but that's right. He hasn't admitted to that one, but even if he did, you'd find a reason not to impeach him for it, right?

You're just trying to drum up votes for Liberal Whacko of the Year.

[Nickdfresh]

The thing is that, there's such a big collage of facts and circumstances that point to an overall abuse of power, and petty politicization, such as:

• The PLAME case.
  
  WMD/terror link Intell Spinning.
  
  The NSA's 'no-warrant' electronic eavesdropping and surveillance.
  
  The constant chipping away at civil liberties...

But I realize that none of these things stands on its own, as of yet, to make a case for impeachment, which would be highly disruptive to this country...

If only we could have recall elections like those silly CANADIANS...

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by diamondD
You're just trying to drum up votes for Liberal Whacko of the Year.

I already voted for him, so his efforts are wasted.

[diamondD]

Yeah, me too. Sorry FORD.

[Keeyth]

Yeah? Well if there is one thing this President HAS done for you, it's that he has invalidated the entire process and idea of voting for anything.

[diamondD]

You've already got our votes. No need to pander.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
The constant chipping away at civil liberties...[/list]

Constant chipping away of civil liberties? You mean like when the liberals in the Supreme Court of our land ruled that it was OK for Wal-Mart to demolish my house and build a nice new store on my land?

[Guitar Shark]

That's a property right, not civil liberties...

But that was a bad decision anyway.

[Warham]

I'd still claim it interferes in my right for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It may appear to be property rights, but if it's my dream property, wouldn't it be infringing on my civil liberty to be happy?

[Guitar Shark]

I don't think you have a civil liberty to be happy. LOL. Civil liberties are things like the right not to be subjected to unreasonable searches and seizures, the right to privacy, free speech, etc.

But like I said, I don't think that decision was correctly decided.