ATTENTION BUSHEEP TROLLS!! It is now ILLEGAL for you to annoy this board.

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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59649

    ATTENTION BUSHEEP TROLLS!! It is now ILLEGAL for you to annoy this board.

    Create an e-annoyance, go to jail

    By Declan McCullagh

    Story last modified Mon Jan 09 04:00:00 PST 2006



    Annoying someone via the Internet is now a federal crime.

    It's no joke. Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity.

    In other words, it's OK to flame someone on a mailing list or in a blog as long as you do it under your real name. Thank Congress for small favors, I guess.

    This ridiculous prohibition, which would likely imperil much of Usenet, is buried in the so-called Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act. Criminal penalties include stiff fines and two years in prison.

    "The use of the word 'annoy' is particularly problematic," says Marv Johnson, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "What's annoying to one person may not be annoying to someone else."
    It's illegal to annoy

    A new federal law states that when you annoy someone on the Internet, you must disclose your identity. Here's the relevant language.

    "Whoever...utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet... without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person...who receives the communications...shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

    Buried deep in the new law is Sec. 113, an innocuously titled bit called "Preventing Cyberstalking." It rewrites existing telephone harassment law to prohibit anyone from using the Internet "without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy."

    To grease the rails for this idea, Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, and the section's other sponsors slipped it into an unrelated, must-pass bill to fund the Department of Justice. The plan: to make it politically infeasible for politicians to oppose the measure.

    The tactic worked. The bill cleared the House of Representatives by voice vote, and the Senate unanimously approved it Dec. 16.

    There's an interesting side note. An earlier version that the House approved in September had radically different wording. It was reasonable by comparison, and criminalized only using an "interactive computer service" to cause someone "substantial emotional harm."

    That kind of prohibition might make sense. But why should merely annoying someone be illegal?

    There are perfectly legitimate reasons to set up a Web site or write something incendiary without telling everyone exactly who you are.

    Think about it: A woman fired by a manager who demanded sexual favors wants to blog about it without divulging her full name. An aspiring pundit hopes to set up the next Suck.com. A frustrated citizen wants to send e-mail describing corruption in local government without worrying about reprisals.

    In each of those three cases, someone's probably going to be annoyed. That's enough to make the action a crime. (The Justice Department won't file charges in every case, of course, but trusting prosecutorial discretion is hardly reassuring.)

    Clinton Fein, a San Francisco resident who runs the Annoy.com site, says a feature permitting visitors to send obnoxious and profane postcards through e-mail could be imperiled.

    "Who decides what's annoying? That's the ultimate question," Fein said. He added: "If you send an annoying message via the United States Post Office, do you have to reveal your identity?"

    Fein once sued to overturn part of the Communications Decency Act that outlawed transmitting indecent material "with intent to annoy." But the courts ruled the law applied only to obscene material, so Annoy.com didn't have to worry.

    "I'm certainly not going to close the site down," Fein said on Friday. "I would fight it on First Amendment grounds."

    He's right. Our esteemed politicians can't seem to grasp this simple point, but the First Amendment protects our right to write something that annoys someone else.

    It even shields our right to do it anonymously. U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas defended this principle magnificently in a 1995 case involving an Ohio woman who was punished for distributing anonymous political pamphlets.

    If President Bush truly believed in the principle of limited government (it is in his official bio), he'd realize that the law he signed cannot be squared with the Constitution he swore to uphold.

    And then he'd repeat what President Clinton did a decade ago when he felt compelled to sign a massive telecommunications law. Clinton realized that the section of the law punishing abortion-related material on the Internet was unconstitutional, and he directed the Justice Department not to enforce it.

    Bush has the chance to show his respect for what he calls Americans' personal freedoms. Now we'll see if the president rises to the occasion.


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  • LoungeMachine
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 32576

    #2
    That sound you hear is 90% of our members logging off now.....

    LMMFAO



    Whatever happened to the Republican Party that was all about "small government", reductions in federal spending, and simply bugging your opponents phones?



    Stalin would be so proud of US today.....
    Originally posted by Kristy
    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
    Originally posted by cadaverdog
    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49567

      #3
      Amazing, how did they jump from "cyber-stalking" to "annoying?"

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      • BigBadBrian
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jan 2004
        • 10625

        #4
        FORD, you annoy me.

        Log off.

        “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59649

          #5
          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
          FORD, you annoy me.

          Log off.

          Can't do that. I'm the authority in this forum. Even Chimpy would agree that someone has to maintain law and order
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

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          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • jhale667
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 20929

            #6
            So does this mean we can have the Feds go after Tardo, Assbrush and the 12,000 Joe Blunder aliases?
            Originally posted by conmee
            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

            That is all.

            Icon.
            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


            Originally posted by Isaac R.
            Then it's really true??

            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
            Originally posted by eddie78
            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 59649

              #7
              Originally posted by jhale667
              So does this mean we can have the Feds go after Tardo, Assbrush and the 12,000 Joe Blunder aliases?
              Absolutely.
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              • jhale667
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 20929

                #8
                Originally posted by FORD
                Absolutely.

                Outstanding! :D
                Originally posted by conmee
                If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                That is all.

                Icon.
                Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                Originally posted by Isaac R.
                Then it's really true??

                The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                Originally posted by eddie78
                I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                • diamondD
                  Veteran
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 1962

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  Can't do that. I'm the authority in this forum. Even Chimpy would agree that someone has to maintain law and order


                  Even Howard Dean would agree, Dr Love is far less annoying.
                  Meet us in the future, not the pasture

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                  • ODShowtime
                    ROCKSTAR

                    • Jun 2004
                    • 5812

                    #10
                    I say we sue McCarrins first. He hasn't been here in awhile, but god damn was he annoying.
                    gnaw on it

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                    • Warham
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 14589

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      Can't do that. I'm the authority in this forum. Even Chimpy would agree that someone has to maintain law and order
                      We know who to call if we need a thread deleted.

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49567

                        #12
                        Originally posted by diamondD
                        Even Howard Dean would agree, Dr Love is far less annoying.
                        Hey man, you avatar thief, you've annoyed me by stealing TWONABOMBER's "Hot For Teacher" avatar (before I did).

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                        • diamondD
                          Veteran
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 1962

                          #13
                          LOL Saw it at the links and said I was gonna shamelessly steal it. :D
                          Meet us in the future, not the pasture

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                          • Hardrock69
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 21897

                            #14
                            In the US, ISPs such as AOL are generally immune from liability under a provision in the Communications Decency Act which grants immunity from suit to those who provide material on the internet that was written by others. While most of the Communications Decency Act has been struck down as unconstitutional, this provision survives.


                            Got the above from this crazy story about a guy suing two other guys because they "humiliated" him in an AOL chat room....

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                            • Angel
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 7481

                              #15
                              I shall continue to annoy the hell out of everyone, because I am posting under my real name. :D

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