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  • Roth_Rage
    Full On Cocktard
    • Mar 2005
    • 31

    New Ohio Law Allows Cops to Request ID

    Ohio Republican Gov. Bob Taft on Wednesday signed a bill into law passed by the state legislature with barely a word of dissent. Supporters of the state's security measure, which takes effect in 90 days, say it's a tool the state can use in fighting terrorism.

    "Like everyone else, after Sept. 11, I became a lot more concerned about our safety and security," said state Sen. Jeff Jacobson, sponsor of the bill, which also instructs local law enforcement to lend assistance when able to federal authorities carrying out provisions of the Patriot Act.

    "We felt very strongly that we needed to have laws in Ohio to out our state on the frontline of fighting terrorism," Jacobson said.

    But dissent is building over authority given to police officers, who can now ask, "What's your name?" as a tool to fight terrorism. Failure to identify oneself could land an individual in jail.

    Critics call the measure the Ohio Patriot Act. The law also requires those applying for state driver's licenses to sign a form that they haven't supported terrorist organizations.

    The American Civil Liberties Union opposed the measure because of the new powers it gives to police.

    "[It] takes us back to the days of Sen. McCarthy and the House Committee on Un-American Activities with demands that people confess their sins," said Jeffrey Gamso, a spokesman for the ACLU.

    But supporters such as police agencies say the new law will be useful without abusing civil rights.

    "I think there's enough checks and balances and enough guidelines have been set up by the courts that we will follow," said Michael Weinman, legal liaison for the Columbus, Ohio, police department.

    The final version of the bill passed the state Senate with only two 'no' votes.

    "People are very afraid to vote against any bill of this nature," said Daniel Tokaji, a law professor at Ohio State University. "They have to stand for re-election and no one wants to be perceived as soft on terrorism."

    Others agree that the measure will come up in the upcoming election.

    "This doesn't have a little to do with the upcoming election. It has everything to do with the upcoming election," said Chris Redfern, chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party

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    More police state laws. I really hope the people of Ohio stand up and say something. Police can and will abuse this law.

    Moreover, the government agencies will have even more power over you. They need NO MORE, in fact, they need alot less. I don't need my government checking everyones ID. I'm not scared of terrorist.

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  • ODShowtime
    ROCKSTAR

    • Jun 2004
    • 5812

    #2
    Man Ohio is a fucked up state.
    gnaw on it

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    • Phil theStalker
      Full Member Status

      • Jan 2004
      • 3843

      #3
      Originally posted by ODShowtime
      Man Ohio is a fucked up state.
      That's why I'm not wasting anymore time and I'm attending a militia meeting in Akron Saturday and another o1ne in Michigan this month.


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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59651

        #4
        How can a government with so many of it's elected officials under indictment be allowed to pass any laws at all?

        All functions of the Ohio state government and the BCE federal government should be suspended immediately until the criminals involved resign or are impeached where appropriate.

        Instead Ohio is passing further fascist measures, while the BCE attempts to solidify a permanent one party fascist state with the addition of Strip Search Scalito to the Extreme Court.

        It's time to put a stop to this bullshit.
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • Phil theStalker
          Full Member Status

          • Jan 2004
          • 3843

          #5
          Originally posted by FORD
          How can a government with so many of it's elected officials under indictment be allowed to pass any laws at all?

          All functions of the Ohio state government and the BCE federal government should be suspended immediately until the criminals involved resign or are impeached where appropriate.

          Instead Ohio is passing further fascist measures, while the BCE attempts to solidify a permanent one party fascist state with the addition of Strip Search Scalito to the Extreme Court.

          It's time to put a stop to this bullshit.
          Oh my god, FORD. When I read the fir1st t2wo sentences of your post I thought I was reading something from Thomas Jefferson's mouth.

          The revolution IS here.

          It's not 2005 any longer, kiddies.


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          • LoungeMachine
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jul 2004
            • 32576

            #6
            A lot of "terrorists" driving around Cleveland, huh?

            I'm sick to death of these PUKES passing anything they want under the banner of " 9/11 Terror "

            FUCK OHIO.


            [ I wonder if Ohio Driver's Licenses have the occupation listed......that would make it easier, just arrest anyone who has a license that says "suicide bomber" under occupation]
            Originally posted by Kristy
            Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
            Originally posted by cadaverdog
            I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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            • Phil theStalker
              Full Member Status

              • Jan 2004
              • 3843

              #7
              Originally posted by LoungeMachine
              A lot of "terrorists" driving around Cleveland, huh?

              Yeh well, y'know that Dennis Kucinich is pretty radical.:D
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              • Phil theStalker
                Full Member Status

                • Jan 2004
                • 3843

                #8
                PS This should have never happened, but it will be thrown out in Federal court, because it IS unconstitutional. i.e., What if I'm walking my dog in the woods behind Cleveland International airport and I don't need t2o have a driver's ID on me? huh

                This is just more stupid laws that are going t2o make SOMEBODY pay to fight it in court.

                It's a losing law and it will not withstand federal scrutiny in federal court. So don't sweat it.
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                • ODShowtime
                  ROCKSTAR

                  • Jun 2004
                  • 5812

                  #9
                  yeah, but it'll be a pain in the ass on the ground. Do you want to be the one to fight it?
                  gnaw on it

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #10
                    They whined after 9/11 because they said the Adminstration didn't do enough to prevent the attacks.

                    Now they're whining because they're trying to prevent further attacks.

                    Go figure.
                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • LoungeMachine
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 32576

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                      They whined after 9/11 because they said the Adminstration didn't do enough to prevent the attacks.

                      Now they're whining because they're trying to prevent further attacks.

                      Go figure.
                      By checking driver's licenses in Ohio????????

                      Give me a fucking break.


                      How about beefing up inspections of containers coming into port?

                      How about securing our 6,000 miles of land borders, not to mention the coastlines?

                      How about beefing up security at nuclear power plants and resevoirs?


                      Checking Driver's licenses in Ohio is "preventing terror" in your world?

                      whatever, man.

                      What's next, door to door knock knocks asking...."excuse me sir/madam....do you have any terrorists in your home?
                      Originally posted by Kristy
                      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                      Originally posted by cadaverdog
                      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                      • thome
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 6678

                        #12
                        This is so funny. There has never been a time that i know of when a cop cannot request you provide your name or what your doing or
                        your DL.

                        How wierd ...

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                        • BigBadBrian
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10625

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LoungeMachine


                          What's next, door to door knock knocks asking...."excuse me sir/madam....do you have any terrorists in your home?
                          Only at yours or Nick's or FORD's house. Or that fucker Phil....he's a weird one...watch him.

                          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49567

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                            They whined after 9/11 because they said the Adminstration didn't do enough to prevent the attacks.

                            Now they're whining because they're trying to prevent further attacks.

                            Go figure.
                            Um, the 9/11 hijackers were quite able to get state IDs. So how would this have prevented 9/11? How does this actually prevent further attacks? In fact, the collection of a large, inspecific, amount of information can actually bog down and distract law enforcement and anti-terrorists, and gives a false sense of security. Sort of like LOUIS FREEH relentlessly obsessing over CLINTON whilst he squandered resources and generally ignored issues regarding terrorism, and then tries to blame everyone else with his little memoirs.

                            Just ask the NSA, which is one of their biggest complaints I think....

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49567

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                              Only at yours or Nick's or FORD's house. Or that fucker Phil....he's a weird one...watch him.

                              As flattered that I am that you put me in a sentence with FORD, let me speak for me.

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