Tres. Sec. Snow linked to Dubai Ports World deal that Chimpy & Rummy knew nothing of

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59614

    #16
    Originally posted by Guitar Shark
    I believe this issue is being blown out of proportion for political purposes.

    What I don't understand, though, is why the Administration is trying so damn hard to prevent this thing from derailing. Has anyone found any RELIABLE evidence that the Administration will benefit somehow from this deal?
    Isn't the fact that Snow and the Carlyle Group are directly involved in the company in question evidence enough?
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

    Comment

    • LoungeMachine
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jul 2004
      • 32576

      #17
      Originally posted by Roy Munson



      seem to have developed an overall bigotry and hatred for the Arab world?

      1 8 0

      Race card, dumbass.

      You played it.

      Originally posted by Kristy
      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
      Originally posted by cadaverdog
      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

      Comment

      • Roy Munson
        Veteran
        • Feb 2004
        • 1526

        #18
        Originally posted by LoungeMachine
        Race card, dumbass.

        You played it.


        What's written and what is meant by what is written are two different things.



        FORD, can you please explain to LM for me? He can't figure it out otherwaise.
        Originally posted by ELVIS
        I guess you're right...

        Comment

        • Hardrock69
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Feb 2005
          • 21897

          #19
          Lawsuits Filed to Block Ports Takeover

          By TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer 39 minutes ago

          WASHINGTON - The White House on Friday praised as helpful the offer by a United Arab Emirates company to postpone indefinitely its takeover of significant operations at six major U.S. seaports. The delay gives
          President Bush time to convince skeptical lawmakers the deal poses no increased risks from terrorism. Lawsuits to upset the $6.8 billion transaction were filed Friday in New Jersey and London.


          The White House said it still supports the agreement and said that Bush will continue to oppose any effort by lawmakers to block it.

          But Thomas Kean, a Republican, former New Jersey governor and chairman of the Sept. 11 commission, said Friday the deal should not have been brokered. "It shouldn't have happened, it never should have happened," he told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

          The company's surprise concession, offered late Thursday, cools the standoff building between the Congress and the president over his administration's previous approval of the deal. In early reaction, lawmakers praised the temporary hold. But some critics pressed anew for an intensive examination of the deal's risks.

          "We believe it would be helpful to have some additional time to brief Congress about the facts and about the safeguards that are in place," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Friday. "We believe once Congress has a better understanding of the facts and the safeguards that are in place that they will be more comfortable with the transaction moving forward. So, a slight delay would be helpful in that regard."

          As part of its new offer, coordinated with the White House, Dubai Ports World said it would agree not to exercise control or influence management over U.S. ports pending further discussions with the administration and Congress. It did not say how long it would wait for these discussions to be finished.

          The announcement effectively leaves existing American and British executives in charge of the company's seaport operations in New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami and Philadelphia.

          Meanwhile, the owner of Port Newark filed a lawsuit in New Jersey to block the sale, citing security concerns. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said the deal violates a 30-year lease signed with the authority in 2000.

          The lawsuit, filed Friday in state Superior Court in Newark, asked a judge to block the sale on the grounds that any such deal required the authority's consent.

          In England, a U.S. company at the Port of Miami, Eller & Company Inc., filed a court petition Friday also seeking to block the sale. Eller asked the High Court in London, which must approve its purchase of London-based Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co., to stop the takeover. Miami-based Eller filed a similar lawsuit last week in a Florida court, alleging it will become an "involuntary partner" with Dubai's government and it may seek more than $10 million in damages.

          Back in Washington, Rep. Peter King (news, bio, voting record) of New York, chairman of the House
          Homeland Security Committee, described the offer to postpone the takeover of operations at U.S. ports as "definitely a positive step." A leading Republican critic of the deal, King said the president still must disclose new details about the administration's review and approval of the agreement last month.

          McClellan said the duration of the delay was "not up to us; it's up to the company to make that decision."

          A senior Dubai Ports executive, Edward H. Bilkey, said the company will otherwise move forward with its purchase of the British company. Although Dubai Ports agreed to temporarily segregate the company's U.S. operations, Bilkey expressed bewilderment over the security concerns expressed in Congress.

          "The reaction in the United States has occurred in no other country in the world," Bilkey said. "We need to understand the concerns of the people in the U.S. who are worried about this transaction and make sure that they are addressed to the benefit of all parties."

          The company, which timed its announcement before financial markets opened in London, assured British shareholders they will be paid as previously planned.

          "It is not only unreasonable but also impractical to suggest that the closing of this entire global transaction should be delayed," Dubai Ports said in a statement.

          But on Capitol Hill, critics weren't silenced.

          "A simple cooling-off period will not allay our concerns," said Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y.

          Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., said the company's offer "isn't worth the paper on which it is written."

          "If the Bush administration will not stop this deal from closing, Congress must." Menendez said.

          Sen.
          Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., urged Bush to conduct a broader review of potential terrorism risks. Rep. Vito Fosella, a New York Republican, said the administration should more fully explain why it concluded the sale was safe.

          The announcement of a delay came amid a persistent political furor over the business deal, otherwise expected to be completed in early March. Republicans and Democrats alike have threatened to introduce legislation to block or delay the deal, citing unease over what they describe as inconsistent opposition to terrorism by the United Arab Emirates.

          Bush has threatened to veto any such measures and forcefully defended the small but wealthy federation in the Persian Gulf as a vital ally.

          The White House noted the United Arab Emirates contributed $100 million to help victims of Hurricane Katrina just weeks before Dubai Ports sought approval for its business deal. It said the money was nearly four times as much as the administration received from all other countries combined, and said there was no connection between the money and the pending deal.

          At the first Senate oversight hearing since the controversy erupted, lawmakers challenged the adequacy of a classified intelligence assessment that played a crucial role assuring administration officials that the Dubai Ports deal was proper. The report, which is closely guarded, was put together during four weeks in November by analysts working under the U.S. director of national intelligence.

          Sen. Carl Levin (news, bio, voting record) of Michigan, the top Democrat on the
          Senate Armed Services Committee, asked whether the intelligence report examined purported links between government officials in the UAE and
          Osama bin Laden before the September 2001 terror attacks.

          "I did not see that in the report," said Robert Kimmitt, deputy secretary at the
          Treasury Department.

          Clinton accused the administration of ignoring provisions of a federal law that require more extensive reviews when deals involve purchases by government-owned companies. Administration officials explained their long-standing practice was to conduct such broader investigations only when deals raised serious national security concerns.

          Kimmitt responded: "We didn't ignore the law. Concerns were raised. They were resolved."

          ___

          Associated Press writers Liz Sidoti and Devlin Barrett in Washington and Jeffrey Gold in Trenton, N.J, contributed to this report.

          The latest news and headlines from Yahoo News. Get breaking news stories and in-depth coverage with videos and photos.


          The White House noted the United Arab Emirates contributed $100 million to help victims of Hurricane Katrina just weeks before Dubai Ports sought approval for its business deal. It said the money was nearly four times as much as the administration received from all other countries combined, and said there was no connection between the money and the pending deal.


          How convenient.....we get $100 million in aid for Katrina victims, Chimpy gives Dubai control of our major ports.

          The fact that the White House voluntarily mentions that the $100 million donation has nothing to do with the port deal means that it was DIRECTLY RELATED.

          They would not bother to deny something that they were not questioned about originally unless the denial is a fucking lie.

          So Cheney & his organ grinder monkey Chimpy were able to broker a deal to sell control of our ports for $100 million bucks.

          Yes it is aside from the actual deal involved in the purchase of Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co. by the company owned by the government of Dubai.

          Dubai probably figured they could sneak a $100 million dollar payoff to Chimpy and the BCE through under everyone's noses using the excuse that it was a 'donation to Katrina victims'.

          Where did the $100 million dollars wind up?

          Isn't FEMA cutting off the payment of hotel bills for people left homeless?

          The 100 million is only one donation. Total by September 2 was already over 400 million, and that was from Americans alone.



          I bet if Congress investigated they would find the donation of 100 million bucks from Dubai has somehow either 'disappeared', or has been diverted to Haliburton, or the Carlyle Group.
          Last edited by Hardrock69; 02-24-2006, 04:41 PM.

          Comment

          • Guitar Shark
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7579

            #20
            Originally posted by FORD
            Isn't the fact that Snow and the Carlyle Group are directly involved in the company in question evidence enough?
            Not for me, no. At least not until I learn more about their involvement.
            ROTH ARMY MILITIA


            Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
            Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

            Comment

            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 59614

              #21
              Originally posted by Guitar Shark
              Not for me, no. At least not until I learn more about their involvement.
              Snow is the BCE treasurer and former CEO of the company in question.

              The Carlyle Group includes Poppy Bush, James Baker, Frank Carlucci, and Shafeed Bin Laden, among others. They own a share of GSX.

              Do you need Chimpy to draw you a picture with his crayons?
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

              Comment

              • Guitar Shark
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2004
                • 7579

                #22
                You mean I'm expected to read this entire thread before posting in it?

                But yeah, it would be very amusing to see Chimpy attempt to draw such a diagram.
                ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

                Comment

                • Hardrock69
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 21897

                  #23
                  It is amazing how the American public at large is so completely ignorant of the actual workings of the United States Government.

                  Christ, they are SO ignorant, they will deny that anything could be improper or illegal about the dealings of the BCE, and even argue and get upset when told about the way the world REALLY works. Then when the truth becomes known, they simply hide their head in the sand, and start blathering mindlessly about "conspiracy theories" and other such claptrap so their precious and fragile little notions of how the Federal Government works will not be invalidated.

                  Warham, BBB, Elvis, and 4morequeers are absolute proof of this.


                  How can people be so fucking stupid as to think that Chimpy and his goons are somehow "honest", "truthful" or have any "integrity" whatsoever?

                  I personally have tried so many times to inform people around here of the TRUTH about the way the U.S. Government operates, and the passengers on the Neo-Con Fantasy Land Bus immediately start wailing as if somebody told them Santa Clause is not real, and then stole their candy.

                  If they only knew that the things I say are just the tip of the iceberg, they would probably become upset, start drooling and babbling inchorently, and then have to spend the rest of their days wearing a nice white jacket, taking prescription drugs on a regular basis so as not to "upset the patient".





                  So Ford, I think if they had Chimpy draw them a picture with his crayons, they would get angry and claim he was lying to them. Then the Secret Service would have to drag them away, and give them a nice comfortable room with rubber walls.

                  Comment

                  • Hardrock69
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 21897

                    #24
                    I just caught the White House in another fucking lie.

                    The post I made with this quote:
                    The White House noted the United Arab Emirates contributed $100 million to help victims of Hurricane Katrina just weeks before Dubai Ports sought approval for its business deal. It said the money was nearly four times as much as the administration received from all other countries combined, and said there was no connection between the money and the pending deal.

                    This demonstrates the level of intellect possessed by those fucktards in the White House right now. They are as delusional as the Busheep in this country, in that they somehow believe that no matter what they say, the public will always believe them.

                    The TRUTH is that there were many other countries who donated as much or MORE. Qatar donated 100 million. Kuwait donated over 500 million in "oil products and other aid".


                    The White House is populated by fucking crimnals and terrorists, who will say or do ANYTHING to have their way.
                    Last edited by Hardrock69; 02-24-2006, 05:34 PM.

                    Comment

                    • Hardrock69
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 21897

                      #25
                      The Emir of Dubai wasa hunting companion of Osama Bin Laden

                      Here is some of the info posted at this page:

                      After the Taliban takes control of the area around Kandahar, Afghanistan, in September 1994, prominent Persian Gulf state officials and businessmen, including high-ranking United Arab Emirates and Saudi government ministers, such as Saudi intelligence minister Prince Turki al-Faisal, frequently secretly fly into Kandahar on state and private jets for hunting expeditions. [Los Angeles Times, 11/18/01] General Wayne Downing, Bush's former national director for combating terrorism, says: "They would go out and see Osama, spend some time with him, talk with him, you know, live out in the tents, eat the simple food, engage in falconing, some other pursuits, ride horses. One noted visitor is Sheik Mohammed ibn Rashid al Maktum, United Arab Emirates Defense Minister and Crown Prince for the emirate of Dubai." [MSNBC, 9/5/03] While there, some develop ties to the Taliban and al-Qaeda and give them money. Both bin Laden and Taliban leader Mullah Omar sometimes participate in these hunting trips. Former US and Afghan officials suspect that the dignitaries' outbound jets may also have smuggled out al-Qaeda and Taliban personnel. [Los Angeles Times, 11/18/01] On one occasion, the US will decide not to attack bin Laden with a missile because he's falconing with important members of the United Arab Emirates' royal family (see February 1999).

                      Read the rest here:







                      Daily Kos is a progressive news site that fights for democracy by giving our audience information and resources to win elections and impact government. Our coverage is assiduously factual, ethical, and unapologetically liberal. We amplify what we think is important, with the proper context—not just what is happening, but how it's happening and why people should care. We give you news you can do something about.

                      Comment

                      • DLR'sCock
                        Crazy Ass Mofo
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 2937

                        #26
                        Business as usual, I am not surprised whatsoever, just like I was not surprised at all when 9/11 happened.

                        Comment

                        Working...