Video shows Bush got explicit Katrina warning

[Nitro Express]

I all reality, would it have been better with Kerry as president? FEMA would still be a huge bumbling buerocracy and Katrina would still be a huge storm.

Maybe the big difference between Camille in 1969 and Katrina is in 1969 people were more proactive at the local level. People were less likely to sit around and ask what the govt. was going to do for them.

One huge failure of Katrina was the welfare state. Welfare sucks the drive out of people and it conditions them to be lazy and subject to the govt. that controls them.

Anyone will any common sense knows huge beurocracies fuck up and are undependable. In WWII they called it SNAFU (Situation Normal All Fucked UP)

If you read the history of the D-Day Invasion, everything that day was a SNAFU. Nobody was where they were suppossed to be and nothing worked as planned. What kept the Germans from pushing us back into the sea was at the platoon level individual soldiers were taking a leadership role and improvising. Everything Eisenhowers staff planned failed in reality. It was the individuals in the muck that turned a huge fuckup into a victory.

Maybe that's the difference. Have we turned into a bunch of dependant can't do shit blame the govt. for everything whimps? The reality is Mother Nature fucked the Gulf Coast. Shit Happens and will continue to happen. In the end, survival is up to the individual because Government fucks up and has fucked up as long as there has been Government.

[ELVIS]

..and the success of Mardi Gras 2006 is a good indicator of real America rising to the occasion...

No, we're not ok here, by a long shot, but we're making progress, for sure!


Fuck the liberals!

[FORD]

Originally posted by ELVIS
..and the success of Mardi Gras 2006 is a good indicator of real America rising to the occasion...

No, we're not ok here, by a long shot, but we're making progress, for sure!


Fuck the liberals!

But the French Quarter wasn't that damaged by Katrina in the first place, was it?

If Mardi Gras was based in the 9th Ward, things might have been a bit different this year.

[ELVIS]

Mardi Gras extended out alot further than the French Quarter...


These are most of the parades around the Greater New Orleans for 2006...

THURSDAY, JANUARY 6
• Phunny Phorty Phellows - Streetcar route, 7:00 p.m.

SUNDAY, JANUARY 8
• Krewe of Claude - Slidell, 1:00 p.m.

SUNDAY, JANUARY 8
• Little Rascals - Metairie, 11:00 a.m.

SUNDAY, JANUARY 15
• Slidellians - Slidell, 1:00 p.m.

• Krewe of Antony and Cleopatra - Slidell, 1:00 p.m.

SATURDAY, JANUARY 21
• Bilge - Slidell, noon

• Krewe of Driftwood - Kenner, 1:00 p.m.

• Krewe du Vieux - French Quarter, 7:00 p.m.

SUNDAY, JANUARY 22
• Perseus - Slidell, 1:00 p.m.

• Pearl River Lions Club Parade - Pearl River, 1:15 p.m.

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 17
• Cleopatra - West Bank, 6:30 p.m.

• Oshun - Uptown, 6:00 p.m.

• Pygmalion - Uptown, 7:30 p.m.

• Atlas - Metairie, 6:30 p.m.

• Excalibur - Metairie, 7:00 p.m.

• Eve - Mandeville, 7:00 p.m.

• Gladiator - St. Bernard, 7:00 p.m.

SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 18
• Krewe of Push Mow - Abita Springs, 11:00 a.m.

• Aladdin - Westbank, noon

• Pontchartrain - Uptown, noon

• Shangri-La - Uptown, 1:00 p.m.

• Caesar - Metairie, 6:00 p.m.

• Olympia - Covington, 6:00 p.m.

• Sparta - Uptown, 6:00 p.m.

• Arabi - St. Bernard, 6:30 p.m.

• Pegasus - Uptown, 6:45 p.m.

• Mona Lisa and Moon Pie Parade - Slidell, 7:00 p.m.

SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 19
• Alla - West Bank, noon

• Carrollton - Uptown, noon

• Dionysus - Slidell, 1:00 p.m.

• King Arthur & Merlin - Uptown, 1:15 p.m.

• Barkus - French Quarter, 2:00 p.m.

• Bards of Bohemia - Uptown, 2:30 p.m.

• Rhea - Metairie, 2:30 p.m.

• Mercury - Metairie, 4:00 p.m.

• Centurions - Metairie, 5:30 p.m.

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 21
• Ancient Druids - Uptown, 6:30 p.m.

• Krewe of Morpheus - Uptown, 6:45 p.m.
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 22
• Saturn - Uptown, 6:00 p.m.

• Muses - Uptown, 6:45 p.m.

• Thor - Metairie, 7:00 p.m.

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 23
• Babylon - Uptown, 5:45 p.m.

• Chaos - Uptown, 6:30 p.m.

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 24
• Hermes - Uptown, 6:00 p.m.

• Krewe d'Etat - Uptown, 6:30 p.m.

• Selene - Slidell, 6:30 p.m.

• Aquila - Metairie, 7:00 p.m.

• Knights of Jason - Metairie, 7:30 p.m.

• Aphrodite - Chalmette, 7:00 p.m.

• Orpheus - Mandeville, 7:00 p.m.

SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 25
• Bush - Bush, 9:00 a.m.

• NOMTOC - West Bank, 11:30 a.m.

• Iris - Uptown, 11:00 a.m.

• Krewe of Salt Bayou - Slidell, noon

• Vulcan - River Ridge, noon

• tucks.html">Tucks - Uptown, 12:30 p.m.

• Endymion - Mid-City, 4:30 p.m.

• Isis - Metairie, 6:00 p.m.

SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 26
• Tchefuncte - Madisonville, 10:00 a.m.

• Okeanos - Uptown, 11:00 a.m.

• Thoth - Uptown, 11:30 a.m.

• Adonis - West Bank, noon

• Grand Isle Independent Mardi Gras Parade - Grand Isle, 1:00 p.m.

• Mid-City - Uptown, 2:00 p.m.

• Bacchus - Uptown, 5:15 p.m.

• Corps de Napoleon - Metairie, 5:30 p.m.

MONDAY, FEBRUARY 27
• Proteus - Uptown, 5:15 p.m.

• Orpheus - Uptown, 5:45 p.m.

• Zeus - Metairie, 6:30 p.m.

MARDI GRAS, FEBRUARY 28
• Zulu - Uptown, 8:30 a.m.

• Rex - Uptown, 10:00 a.m.

• Argus - Metairie, 10:00 a.m.

• Mystic Krewe of Covington - Covington, 10:00 a.m.

• Lions - Covington, 10:00 a.m.

• Elks - Jeff. - Metairie, 11:00 a.m.

• Grela - West Bank, 11:00 a.m.

• Elks- Orl. - Uptown, 11:30 a.m.

• Crescent City - Uptown, after Elks

• Krewe of Choctaw - Grenta, noon

• Skunks - Lacombe, 1:00 p.m.

• Chahta-Ima - Lacombe, 1:30 p.m.


Any questions ??

[FORD]

Yeah.... why are you endorsing such obvious paganism?

[ELVIS]

I'm inspired to resort to lyrical inspiration, as you often run into the ground, FORD...


Well, I came upon a child of God
He was walking along the road
And I asked him, Tell where are you going?
This he told me

Said, I'm going down to Yasgur's Farm,
Gonna join in a rock and roll band.
Got to get back to the land and set my soul free.

We are stardust, we are golden,
We are billion year old carbon,
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

Well, then can I walk beside you?
I have come to lose the smog,
And I feel myself a cog in somethin' turning.
And maybe it's the time of year,
But then maybe it's the time of man.
And I don't know who I am,
But life is for learning.

We are stardust, we are golden,
We are billion year old carbon,
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

We are stardust, we are golden,
We are billion year old carbon,
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

By the time we got to Woodstock,
We were half a million strong
And everywhere was a song and a celebration.
And I dreamed I saw the bomber jet planes
Riding shotgun in the sky,
Turning into butterflies
Above our nation.

We are stardust, we are golden,
We are caught in the devils bargain,
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden.

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by FORD
Yeah.... why are you endorsing such obvious paganism?

Oh, c'mon now...:D

[FORD]

Elvis is quoting hippie songs..... have we entered the parallel universe?

[ELVIS]

Hippie song ??

[FORD]

Originally posted by ELVIS
Hippie song ??

The song is called "Woodstock", is it not?

I'm not a big Joni Mitchell fan really, but these are some of her best lyrics. I prefer the Crosby Stills & Nash recording though.

[Nitro Express]

Originally posted by ELVIS
..and the success of Mardi Gras 2006 is a good indicator of real America rising to the occasion...

No, we're not ok here, by a long shot, but we're making progress, for sure!


Fuck the liberals!

Exactly. Katrina is bad but not as bad as when the Yankees fucked the south over during the civil war. Like Gone With The Wind you will live to fight another day. LOL!

In all seriouseness, I think most people would want less taxes and to have the govt. leave them the hell alone and rebuild their communities themselves.

The people complaining the loudest are the multigenerational welfare rats who never had to build anything or work for anything. The are like slaves dependant of their slave master Uncle Sam for everything. It's sad what the govt. has done to those people.

[ashstralia]

ya know, the more i read this forum, clearer is the truth.

you guys need ford as pres.
you'd also get pres. jesus,
and pres. satan.


why don't you run for office, ford? you seem more than qualified.

[4moreyears]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
I all reality, would it have been better with Kerry as president? FEMA would still be a huge bumbling buerocracy and Katrina would still be a huge storm.

Maybe the big difference between Camille in 1969 and Katrina is in 1969 people were more proactive at the local level. People were less likely to sit around and ask what the govt. was going to do for them.

One huge failure of Katrina was the welfare state. Welfare sucks the drive out of people and it conditions them to be lazy and subject to the govt. that controls them.

Anyone will any common sense knows huge beurocracies fuck up and are undependable. In WWII they called it SNAFU (Situation Normal All Fucked UP)

If you read the history of the D-Day Invasion, everything that day was a SNAFU. Nobody was where they were suppossed to be and nothing worked as planned. What kept the Germans from pushing us back into the sea was at the platoon level individual soldiers were taking a leadership role and improvising. Everything Eisenhowers staff planned failed in reality. It was the individuals in the muck that turned a huge fuckup into a victory.

Maybe that's the difference. Have we turned into a bunch of dependant can't do shit blame the govt. for everything whimps? The reality is Mother Nature fucked the Gulf Coast. Shit Happens and will continue to happen. In the end, survival is up to the individual because Government fucks up and has fucked up as long as there has been Government.

Extremly well said. My question is if Bush new so far n advance why did all those people decide to stay at the Superdome instead of getting the fuck out of dodge. I am sure the wheather channel or even the AM radio station spoke of the up comming storm. Why did all these people not leave and why do people still blame the president because some low income under educated people were not smart enough to have a minimum level of common sense.

[Cathedral]

Ok, at the risk of being labeled a "Bush Defender" let's just keep in mind that New Orleans had 30 years to address the "Levee Issue", but they did nothing and spent the money elsewhere.

Secondly, if Bush had taken charge of the situation and acted before the storm came we'd be reading threads about how he trampled "State's Right's" and acted Unconstitutionally.

You hate the man, so there is nothing he can do that won't be scrutinized and twisted to fit that agenda.
he's damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't, there is absolutely no surprise in that.

The bigger issue is that you think you have the right to act this way, and accuse, try, and convict him in the court of public opinion which is what is truly unconstutional. You rob him of his chance at "Due Process" and to date that has not produced any charges in an actual court of law.

He won't be impeached simply because you spend years screaming "FOUL", you have to provide proof beyond the shadow of the doubt of his guilt because in this country the accused don't have to prove anything, the burdon of proof lies in the lap of the accuser.

You have failed to provide that proof, therefore there have been no charges filed, and your actions, collectively, are "slanderous" unless you can fullfill YOUR responsibilities under Contitutional Law.

I'd be saying the same thing if it were a Democrat in office, and i'd keep my tongue still unless i had that proof because THAT is the right thing to do and how EVERY citizen in this country SHOULD be treated.

I don't know what he is or isn't guilty of, and niether do any of you or charges would have been filed and he would have been gone long before his second term began.

It just shows me that you like to change the rules to achieve an agenda and damned be the Constitution or the letter of the law for that matter.

I say what i have always said, "PUT UP, OR SHUT UP!"

Take a moment sometime and look up what "Burdon of Proof" means and who it applies to in any case.
You might suddenly see that it is YOU that is acting outside the Constitution and biased by pure hatred...it's just wrong how you commie bastards go about your business.

A "convicted" killer gets more respect from you tools, it's pathetic.

A cold November Rain is in your forecast if you don't get a damn grip on reality.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by 4moreyears
Extremly well said. My question is if Bush new so far n advance why did all those people decide to stay at the Superdome instead of getting the fuck out of dodge. I am sure the wheather channel or even the AM radio station spoke of the up comming storm. Why did all these people not leave and why do people still blame the president because some low income under educated people were not smart enough to have a minimum level of common sense.

Because they believe they are not accountable for themselves, which is common of those who are sucking the government tit.
They actually believe that if they suffer it is never their own fault, it's the fault of the government that has oppressed them since the creation of this nation.

And it isn't just black people, dude, that is just a wrong assessment to make. I know just as many white losers as i do black one's, it isn't about race in my eyes, it's about being a needy lazy individual, and that attitude knows no racial barrier.

I could have had a home right on the coast made of card board and nothing would have kept me from leaving a day in advance at the latest.
My ass would be pushing a wheelchair at that, and you know why?
Because I don't now and never have believed that this government could, would, can, or will protect me and my family from anything, ESPECIALLY a natural disaster.

Everyone in elected office that was in the danger zone is guilty of NOT doing their jobs, and that INCLUDES George W. Bush.

A State response comes first, they failed to do so, at that point a Federal response was too late,, those are the facts.

Instead of spending month after month assessing blame to one person or the other how about everyone focuses on how to keep it from happening again by actually putting together a joint State AND Federal respnse Team to address ANY natural disaster any state may face in the future?

I know, it's a foreign concept in this country, isn't it?

I wish people would just shut up and just do something positive for a change.