FBI "Criminal Negligence" Before 9/11!!

[Warham]

Originally posted by FORD
It would be more accurate to say that the Clinton administration could have done a lot more if they weren't crippled by two factors:

1) Bullshit investigations into the President's personal life that wasted the Justice Department's time (including the FBI, which was led by that incompetent ass Louis Freeh)

2) Everything Clinton & Gore tried to get passed was rejected by a hostile Republican congress.

As for Poppy, he didn't want an investigation, because he knew damn well that any TRUE assessment of the facts would come right back to him and his Saudi butt buddies.

Nice try FORD. The Democrats were in control of Congress during Clinton's first two years. What meaningful legislation was passed then?

[Warham]

Why are you guys pussyfooting around? I gave Bush a D- during his first term in office.

Where's your scolding of Clinton?

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Warham
Why are you guys pussyfooting around? I gave Bush a D- during his first term in office.

Where's your scolding of Clinton?

LMMFAO, I gave Bush an A+ for his first term and an F- for the second.

Nick, I agree that all commissions do is waste tax payers money to tell us what we already know.
If you want to do something prodcutive on either side of the aisle then these commissions should be made up by The People, not those who have something to hide.

I believe they are all bised in one way or another and in every case be it right or left, something is covered up.

[FORD]

Have you guys ever asked yourselves WHY the right wing went out of their way to harrass Clinton the entire length of his Presidency?

NIXON was investigated for crimes that were committed while he was President.

REAGAN & POPPY were investigated (albeit very poorly) for treasonous funding and arming of worldwide terrorism, which occurred while they were in the White House.

When CHIMPY is impeached, it will be for what he has done since January 20, 2001. Not any illegal business dealings he did with Osama's brother in the 1970's.

So why was CLINTON investigated for things that had taken place YEARS before he was in the White House that had nothing to do with his Presidency? And when THAT investigation failed, why did they go after his personal life?

Could it be that the right wing, in fact the BCE themselves, (Ken Starr & Ted Olson are known BCE associates) wanted to PURPOSELY keep Clinton distracted so he had less time to spend dealing with such matters?

For what purpose?

Best case scenario - they simply didn't want a Democrat to take credit for anything.

Worst case scenario - They couldn't allow Clinton to act because their agenda for THIS decade was already being planned out, and it depended on a healthy "Al Qaeda"

And if you think that's too deep into tin foil hat territory, then offer your own explanation. Again, what was the purpose of harrassing Clinton for things that had nothing to do with his job?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
Why are you guys pussyfooting around? I gave Bush a D- during his first term in office.

Bullshit


I want to see a link

[Warham]

AGAIN, I ask, where is your criticism of Clinton's handling of terrorist threats during the 90's?

Also, the Republicans 'harassed' Clinton after 1998, and after he lied to a grand jury.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
AGAIN, I ask, where is your criticism of Clinton's handling of terrorist threats during the 90's?

I'd gladly criticize CLINTON, if he had been able to carry out his plan and it failed, and had not been the victim of so much bullshit that extends into this forum --daily. I actually disliked Clinton very much on many levels. But the partisan attacks, and the overall effectiveness of his governance, won me over to some extent. But I've dispelled far too much "9/11's all Clinton's Fault" BS in this Forum to even take a serious look, but I have criticized CLINTON here; but you irrational partisans put me in the unenviable position of defending him...

My criticism is this: He could have used his will, his charisma to have galvanized and untied the nation against terror, both foreign and domestic...

But of course, the Republicans kept saying he was "wagging the dog." So it is very thought to attack him when he was so investigated and attacked to begin with...

Also, the Republicans 'harassed' Clinton after 1998, and after he lied to a grand jury.

Yeah, over a private affair, when he was being investigated for financial dealings and conspiracy theories, yeah, how can I forget?

BTW, when do you guys criticize REAGAN or BUSH Sr.?

[Warham]

It ain't private anymore once you lie to a grand jury.

[Warham]

Irrational partisans? Coming from you?

It's funny how the only people you'll defend are Democrats. That's interesting and quite telling.

We put you in no position where you had to defend him. You defend him of your own free will, because let's face it, you like the guy. Don't beat around the bush. You've criticized Clinton like I've criticized George W. Bush.

[DLR'sCock]

I knew this years ago, there were a number of investigations pre 9-11 that were thwarted by our gov't.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Irrational partisans? Coming from you?

It's funny how the only people you'll defend are Democrats. That's interesting and quite telling.

We put you in no position where you had to defend him. You defend him of your own free will, because let's face it, you like the guy. Don't beat around the bush.

You've forgotten Sunshine, that I've defended JOHN McCAIN in this Forum...

And people like you --reciting every dime-store, two-bit conspiracy theory, made me like him. I didn't vote for CLINTON in 92.' Who'd you vote for?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
It ain't private anymore once you lie to a grand jury.

But he didn't "lie."

[Warham]

John McCain, that diehard conservative?? Wow, let me give you a high five for that!

John McCain could run as a Democrat and win their nomination in '08.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
And people like you --reciting every dime-store, two-bit conspiracy theory, made me like him.

I'm glad you feel that way. Every BCE thread here has made me like W. even more over the last two years.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
But he didn't "lie."

Nick, stop with the jokes. You're cracking me up here.