I Want This Asshole To Burn In Hell!

[knuckleboner]

sorry to break it to you guys, but the author's right; dying didn't make pat tillman a hero.

it just made it easier for the average joe to see it. pat tillman was a hero the moment he decided that he would voluntarily take a job that would put his life at risk in order to save/protect others.

is pat tillman's brother, kevin, any less of a hero because his number hasn't come up yet?

sure, the 346 NYC firefighters who died in the WTC are heros. but so's the firefighter currently sleeping comfortably in his bed in demoines, iowa. he hasn't had to give his life yet. and he might never have to. but the fact that he willingly took a job to save people, where he MIGHT have to give his life is enough to make him a hero.

just like pat tillman.




(and grims, goddamn...you're ruining your image here...i agree 100% on the artificial borders. don't worry, though, outside of the warzone, i'll still hold you in low esteem )

[lucky wilbury]

everyone should read the full colum.it says things things like "G.I. Joe guy who got what was coming to him."

http://www.boston.com/news/education/higher/articles/2004/04/29/umass_president_criticizes_students_column_on_felled_soldier/

UMass president criticizes student's column on felled soldier
By Associated Press | April 29, 2004

AMHERST -- A University of Massachusetts graduate student who wrote a campus newspaper column saying former NFL player Pat Tillman was not a hero for being killed while fighting in Afghanistan was sharply criticized Thursday by the school's president.

UMass president Jack Wilson issued a statement saying Rene Gonzalez' comments in The Daily Collegian "are a disgusting, arrogant and intellectually immature attack on a human being who died in service to his country."

In his column, which ran Wednesday on the opinion page and was posted on the newspaper's Web site, Gonzalez called the former Arizona Cardinals safety a "G.I. Joe guy who got what was coming to him."

"That was not heroism," Gonzalez wrote. "It was prophetic idiocy."

His column, which ran next to a column praising Tillman as a hero, also criticizes America's military response to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Tillman, the San Jose, Calif., native who gave up his NFL career to join the Army Rangers in 2002, was killed in combat April 22 in Afghanistan.

While recognizing Gonzalez' right to free speech, Wilson said the student owes Tillman a "debt of gratitude," and said he should apologize to Tillman's friends and family.

The state Senate on Thursday approved a resolution of condemnation, with one member, Sen. Robert Hedlund, R-Weymouth, calling Gonzalez a "nitwit."

Jared Nokes, president of the Student Government Association, also issued a statement condemning Gonzalez' column.

Gonzalez did not respond to telephone and e-mail messages left Thursday by The Associated Press.

In a response to the controversy generated by the column, the paper's editorial board ran a letter to readers in Thursday's edition saying Gonzalez's views do not reflect The Collegian's opinion.

"We do not hold back from printing news stories, columns or editorials that may upset our readership -- instead, we seek to both inform and stir debate through our publication," the letter said. "Our decision to publish Gonzalez' column -- an opinion piece written by a member of our campus community -- is the only way for us to live up to this ideal."

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On the Net: www.dailycollegian.com/

[High Life Man]

Originally posted by Mr Grimsdale
Seriously? I thought that was just the San Francisco Peace Treaty which ended the mission of the Allied Council for Japan.

Yep, I just heard about it the other day. I think yesterday was the 52nd anniversary of it.

There must have been an agreement not to take arms with the understanding that the "official" end of the war would be later. A sort of cold truce like the one standing in North Korea.

I'll have to do some research on this.

[Mr Grimsdale]

Originally posted by knuckleboner
(and grims, goddamn...you're ruining your image here...i agree 100% on the artificial borders. don't worry, though, outside of the warzone, i'll still hold you in low esteem )

awww shucks, you say the sweetest things

re: the artificial borders - if we still had the empire we wouldn't have let the instability happen

rule britannia...

hehehe

[Mr Grimsdale]

Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Dude, you rock!

The PHDs that they're talking about are PHDs in BA type of programs (or programmes if you prefer). You know, Poly Sci, English, Psychology, Middle Eastern sexual patterns, etc...

I don't think anyone here has an ounce of disrespect for PHDs in medicine or science. And you're damn right, our technology owes alot to hard-science PHDs. But you can't discredit the Engineers either...

The wonderful thing about our country is that if you have a great idea, ambition, work ethic, and a bit of luck, no PHD is necessary to change the world (and make millions in the process).

I hate to break it to you but you can achieve just about anything in a lot of countries with those things you mention.

...although if you want to create a space programme and design stealthy vehicles it helps to have a PhD.

Not too sure that Johnny from across the block with a basic high school education could handle finite volume analysis.

I certainly wasn't discrediting engineers, I was one. I've got 7+ years of university engineering under my belt. Unfortunately there's not much call for engineers over here and the US quite rightly looks after its own so I jumped ship onto the IT bandwagon.

[Mr Grimsdale]

...and there was me thinking those Japanese were such nice, quiet and respectful people.

[Mr Grimsdale]

oops!! meant to quote HLMs' last message above

[High Life Man]

Originally posted by Mr Grimsdale
...and there was me thinking those Japanese were such nice, quiet and respectful people.

They're fine people when they're not crashing planes into boats.

Good food too!

[GAR]

Originally posted by Mr Grimsdale
...and there was me thinking those Japanese were such nice, quiet and respectful people.

Well, how wrong could one be?

You didn't know they were an island nation of fucking Cunts, devious in all ways and devoid of social responsibility, politeness and compassionate consideration.

Let alone their world-reknown status as non-sympathetic robots lacking emotion and self expression.

You didn't know any different, you only see the "public Japoid face" and not the other social retardation that breeds repressed connotations such as Slasher Manga, mudsports and other freakishness.

I say we nuke all of the Orient. I say we plan it out today and carry thru once and for all or this discussion will carry on for another 300years.

[GAR]

Originally posted by Roy Munson
Holy shit you're a fuckin' weirdo.

How about you shove a pipe cleaner up your ass? How about jumping in front of a bus? How about drinking a bottle of Drano? Do something productive.

"Weido"? You call that WEIRD???

It is not your job to stand in back and caution about "trouble" while consoling our other-site hostess Vonnie with that searing case of Chlamydia you decided to dose out because he was the locomotive in your fuck train with them 12 Filipino bus boys Michael Jackson fucking limo-gulped down Back At The Ranch.

You just keep your ass where I can see it, that'll be YOUR job. And stay the fuck outta the REAL trouble - that's why we have our Bold and Brazen MAIN mods, mmkay?

I'm fine with what Little forum I got stuck there with you, and I just might want to throw some salsa around this joint sometime, so stay lockstep and we'll get along just dandee..

.. and it's none of your fucking business what I intend to use the salsa for.

[ELVIS]

LMAO!

Classic...

[GAR]

Well, that Tillman-hater is Toast.

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[High Life Man]

Love the title of your email GAR.

This moron will be getting punched off barstools for the rest of his life. He better hit the weight room and take some karate classes ASAFP.