GM/Delphi Continue Struggle To Survive

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
And it's a product produced in America...

Japanese execs receive far less compensation than their vastly over-payed American counter parts, the only country in the world where CEOs can actually get bonuses for destroying a company...



Actually, I see as many modded Ford Focuses, Chevy Cavaliers & Cobalts, and Dodge Neons as I see Toyota Celicas, Nissan Sentra SER-SPECVs, or Honda Civic Si's...



Um, WTF are you talking about? Seriously... Ford is neither a "Sheep," and I don't think he's a car-junkie modder either...

Produced in America?
Dude, get a clue, they are NOT produced in America.
The parts are shipped over here in crates and "ASSEMBLED" here in America...BIG fucking difference.

Ever been to Cruise Fest?
For every 8 foreign tuners you see there are 3-4 american cars, idiot.
And Cruise Fest is the biggest event in this country, moron.

Stick to what you know, Nick, you're out of your element on this one.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by FORD
I ain't no fucking sheep

Yes you are. You're just in the wrong flock.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Produced in America?
Dude, get a clue, they are NOT produced in America.
The parts are shipped over here in crates and "ASSEMBLED" here in America...BIG fucking difference.

As opposed to the American cars that are shipped to South America and assembled? Are the MAZDAs with FORD nameplates "American" CAT? Or are Fords with Mazda badges Japanese? I'm so glad you can make such a clinical, catagorical statement on foreign/American sourced parts...

Ever been to Cruise Fest?
For every 8 foreign tuners you see there are 3-4 american cars, idiot.
And Cruise Fest is the biggest event in this country, moron.

I'm talking about "Modded" cars I actually see on the road... No, I don't go to "cruise nights" often, anymore.

Stick to what you know, Nick, you're out of your element on this one.

I know more than you think, CAT...

[Mr Grimsdale]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Japanese execs receive far less compensation than their vastly over-payed American counter parts, the only country in the world where CEOs can actually get bonuses for destroying a company...

Oh I dunno about the only country, the final death throes of the Rover car marque last year were a shining example of how to do that.

Mind you their vehicles were utter, utter shite.

[Mr Grimsdale]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
This I agree with, which is why I've tended to prefer Nipponese Rice-Rockets...

But I was speaking specifically about long term reliability, not drive-ability...

OK, you could have a point with reliability. I'm always driving past some poor sod at the side of the road with a broken bmw, audi or mercedes... and I'm driving a supposedly unreliable Alfa. HA!

[Nickdfresh]

I had a friend that loved those Alfas, there's still a used car dealer that sells them in my area...

No more new Italian or Frenchy cars over here, except for the very rare Ferrari...

[Mr Grimsdale]

Alfa will start shipping their new cars to the US soon, maybe even later this year.

The new ones come with a 3.2l engine based on a GM design, apparently they fit a new cylinder head and call it an Alfa engine. Sounds a bit gay if you ask me as the best thing about Alfas has always been the engine and now they go and spoil that.

[Nickdfresh]

Hmmm...

GM has used a lot of Euro parts in turn, I wonder how many US Cadillac Catera owners realized their cars were actually an OPEL passenger sedan???

Really? A GM 3.2L. One of the few things GM did very well was the 3.8LV6 (3800II) in which a whole series of engines were based on, mine has 169K on it, and it runs flawlessly...(Now only if it had a manual transmission, and a real suspension.)

Still, I'd like the Alfa engine if I were getting one; but I think new 3.2L might be more Opel or Saab than GM...

[BITEYOASS]

If I wanted a british car, then I'd go for a mini or whatever the fuck Mr. Bean drives! :D

[BITEYOASS]

I'm fuckin hell on wheels here! :D

[Mr Grimsdale]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Still, I'd like the Alfa engine if I were getting one; but I think new 3.2L might be more Opel or Saab than GM...

It get's worse. Somebody pass me a bucket...

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I know more than you think, CAT.

BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Fucking...NOT!!!!!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Fucking...NOT!!!!!

Oh the irony...

Yeah, I can't name the American Idol finalists pussy-fag...