Cnn On Fire!!!!

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
What?!?

Were they telling the truth?!?

LOL!

What time is Idol on?

[Guitar Shark]

Biden 2008!!

[FORD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Biden 2008!!

Read the headlines, counselor... the days of the neocon agenda are OVER.

Fuck Joe Biden and the AIPAC horse he rode in on.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by FORD
No, Maybe, and NO FUCKING WAY IN HELL!

Maybe to Edwards? I mean, I don't know. He didn't win the nomination and then as the running mate they didn't win the office. I can see him trying again, but I don't see him going far.

I have a feeling that it'll be Democrat from the South and it'll be someone closer to the center who can try to swing over some Republicans who are disagreeing more than agreeing with Bush.

Who that is, I have no clue. I just had a feeling and thought I'd put it out there.

[Warham]

Allen in '08!

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
She's not going to run...

She's going to run.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Warham
She's going to run.

Yep. She won't even asnwer when her constituents ask if she's going to run for President after running for re-lection and changes the topic. If she had no plans to or desire, she would say no.

[Nickdfresh]

She may have the desire, but she's not about to put up with the shit...

[FORD]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Maybe to Edwards? I mean, I don't know. He didn't win the nomination and then as the running mate they didn't win the office. I can see him trying again, but I don't see him going far.

I have a feeling that it'll be Democrat from the South and it'll be someone closer to the center who can try to swing over some Republicans who are disagreeing more than agreeing with Bush.

Who that is, I have no clue. I just had a feeling and thought I'd put it out there.

Edwards fits that description very well. But he's distancing himself from the DLC, probably because they have become a tool of AIPAC and the corporatists, rather than the "centrist" group they claim to be.

I don't mind a centrist, as long as he's not a corporatist. The reason I started the "Gore/Edwards" thread a few weeks ago is because those are two guys I believe have the best shot of wininng in the current environment. There's still too much fear of the phantom "terraists" to elect a true Liberal like Dennis Kucinich, though we should take serious look at his platform and see which parts CAN fit the current climate. Being opposed to corporatist trade policies which are destroying living wage jobs in this country, for example. Edwards should definitely embrace such an idea, given his talk of "two Americas".

In any case, the Democratic base will not accept a Bush lite candidate this time. We won't settle for a slightly whitewashed PNAC foreign policy. Take a hint from the Israeli people and tell the neocon shitbags where to stick it.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
She may have the desire, but she's not about to put up with the shit...

She's already pulling out Bible quotes, trying to appeal to the Christians in this country. It won't work though, because she also has to appeal to the moveon.org crowd.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by FORD
Edwards fits that description very well. But he's distancing himself from the DLC, probably because they have become a tool of AIPAC and the corporatists, rather than the "centrist" group they claim to be.

I don't mind a centrist, as long as he's not a corporatist. The reason I started the "Gore/Edwards" thread a few weeks ago is because those are two guys I believe have the best shot of wininng in the current environment. There's still too much fear of the phantom "terraists" to elect a true Liberal like Dennis Kucinich, though we should take serious look at his platform and see which parts CAN fit the current climate. Being opposed to corporatist trade policies which are destroying living wage jobs in this country, for example. Edwards should definitely embrace such an idea, given his talk of "two Americas".

In any case, the Democratic base will not accept a Bush lite candidate this time. We won't settle for a slightly whitewashed PNAC foreign policy. Take a hint from the Israeli people and tell the neocon shitbags where to stick it.

I don't know if I posted this in that thread, but I can't really see Gore trying again. I mean, he does get press time if he says something about global warming, but that's about it. If there was going to be another try for him, he needs to start popping up and talking issues slowly. But I can't see him, though, esp with Edwards as a running mate. Like I said before, if Edwards goes again, he's going to be the big guy. I can't see him taking second fiddle to another again, ya know?

And I don't think the Republicans are going to stick with a clone of Bush. Look at the opinions of the prez -- it's a love/hate thing with a small percentage in that happy medium. And everyone always tells me no to Giuliani because he's not a right of the right Republican, but I think he's in the vein of what the party is going to produce canidate-wise. I mean, you'll have someone who is really right, you'll have someone more towards the center of the aisle, and you'll have someone dab smack in the middle of Republican world. But I don't see the candidate being hard right.

Americans want someone right now, both sides of the aisle, who they feel is going to take care of things. You have those who don't like Bush, feeling things are falling apart. You're going to have those who like Bush, feeling like things will fall apart. Then you have that happy medium who can go either way. That's why I think Hillary's going to run for the Democrats. She'll use that "me and Bill were a team" thing and she's on some committees, and she has a strong record. The record can be debated if it's a good strong or a bad strong, but she has one. It's also why I think Rudy's going to run, because he has a strong record running the most populous city, which equals some governorships. Both have the ability to appeal to people across the aisles and both are known popularly nationwide. That's going to be a huge factor.

I think, because the Democratic party does need some restructuring and I don't see it being done secure enough for the 2008 election, another Republican president will be elected. But I think it's going to be someone Republican with some random Centrist - a step to the Left characteristics.

But I will say this -- Chuck Shumer's going to run or wants to run, at least. How do I know? He's all over the news every day talking about anything he can. This is half why New Yorkers are starting to take Hillary's re-election and possible presidential bid into thought. It's obvious Chuck wants it and then if Hillary's trying too -- who's going to be sitting in for the state while they try to woo the country?

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
She may have the desire, but she's not about to put up with the shit...

Why not? She did twice with Bill's runs. Not to mention his Governorship and her Senatorship. She's used to it. Plus to go down in history? She'll go for it.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
Hillary represents the Democratic majority, and they will vote for her in droves.

Who told you that?

Or was this moronic statement all your own?

[FORD]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Who told you that?

Or was this moronic statement all your own?

Dick Morris told him that. Then he sucked his toes.

[diamondD]

Originally posted by Ally_Kat
Yep. She won't even asnwer when her constituents ask if she's going to run for President after running for re-lection and changes the topic. If she had no plans to or desire, she would say no.

Bill flat out said he wouldn't run if he were to get elected Governor. We all know how that turned out. She'll spin it, blame it on the vacumn and the overwhelming urging from everyone, and she'll smile the whole time she knows she lied.

She's got the slickest political machine out there guiding her. Even tho he's been exposed as BCE since the tsunami and hurricane Katrina.