Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect

[Warham]

The guy can't even say the word 'nuclear' correctly, but yet he's so cunning that he's managed to manufacture the greatest conspiracy known to mankind in the 21th century, perhaps only 2nd all-time to either the JFK assassination, or the Roswell crash in 1947, both of which haven't been proven either in fifty years.

[jhale667]

Originally posted by Warham
Belief in GOD wouldn't be considered a theory, but if you're going that route, I find that there's more circumstancial and natural evidence that proves GOD exists than there for proving George W. Bush is the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks.

Oh geez, do I have to post the definition of FAITH again? God IS a theory---can't be proven to exist through empirical data. Faith IS the belief in something that can't be proven. And I seriously doubt you could produce ANY evidence proving his existence. Not knocking anyone's faith, but call it what it IS.

Back to your originally scheduled debate....

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
Belief in GOD wouldn't be considered a theory, but if you're going that route, I find that there's more circumstancial and natural evidence that proves GOD exists than there for proving George W. Bush is the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks.

A theory, by definition is something that lacks evidence to prove it. Otherwise it would be a fact, not a theory. You cannot factually prove nor disprove the existence of God. But you can prove the existence of "practice drills" scheduled for 9-11-01, because these drills were documented, Cheney was in charge of them, and FEMA was in New York City on September 10th, supposedly to prepare for these drills. These are statements of FACT.

Whether you choose to believe a theory or not is a matter of personal choice and of faith. But refusing to believe a fact is just fucking stupid.

[Warham]

Originally posted by FORD
A theory, by definition is something that lacks evidence to prove it. Otherwise it would be a fact, not a theory. You cannot factually prove nor disprove the existence of God. But you can prove the existence of "practice drills" scheduled for 9-11-01, because these drills were documented, Cheney was in charge of them, and FEMA was in New York City on September 10th, supposedly to prepare for these drills. These are statements of FACT.

Whether you choose to believe a theory or not is a matter of personal choice and of faith. But refusing to believe a fact is just fucking stupid.

I'm sure there were drills.

The doesn't show me anything in regards to Bush plotting the demise of the World Trade Center.

[Warham]

Originally posted by jhale667
Oh geez, do I have to post the definition of FAITH again? God IS a theory---can't be proven to exist through empirical data. Faith IS the belief in something that can't be proven. And I seriously doubt you could produce ANY evidence proving his existence. Not knocking anyone's faith, but call it what it IS.

Back to your originally scheduled debate....

Theories are logical assumptions based on facts, like the theory of evolution, or the theory or relativity.

GOD isn't a theory by that definition, and I said as much.

[Warham]

This is all meaningless anyway.

There's no smoking gun out there, and if one of you can't produce it, I'll never believe Cheney, Dubya or 'Poppy' was behind 9/11.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
I'm sure there were drills.

The doesn't show me anything in regards to Bush plotting the demise of the World Trade Center.

If the drills caused the US Air Defenses to stand down while planes hit the WTC and the Pentagon, then how do you ignore the possibility that the plan was to deliberately do exactly THAT?

[diamondD]

Originally posted by FORD
But refusing to believe a fact is just fucking stupid.

You have never admitted to one fact that contradicts your beliefs on 9-11, so what does that make you?

There's plenty of "facts" out there. Dismissing them because they contradict with your "theories" is BEYOND stupid.

[diamondD]

Originally posted by FORD
If the drills caused the US Air Defenses to stand down while planes hit the WTC and the Pentagon, then how do you ignore the possibility that the plan was to deliberately do exactly THAT?

FACT: NORAD was never intended to defend us from an inland attack.

[jhale667]

Originally posted by FORD
If the drills caused the US Air Defenses to stand down while planes hit the WTC and the Pentagon, then how do you ignore the possibility that the plan was to deliberately do exactly THAT?

Seriously. Even if you're the most hardcore neocon, what are the odds of the attack COINCIDENTALLY HAPPENING THE SAME DAY AS THE DRILLS?!?! I've got a better chance of being struck by lightning IN my office...

[diamondD]

How often do they have drills? Researched it before coming up with this conclusion?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham


George W. Bush is the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks.

For starters, name ONE person here who has EVER claimed Chimpy as the "mastermind" behind 9/11

You can't. But then that's typical Warhammer Hyperbole

But please don't ever put Bush and Mastermind together in the same sentence again.

[jhale667]

Originally posted by diamondD
FACT: NORAD was never intended to defend us from an inland attack.

But our strategic air defenses are, yes? And there was, coincidentally, only a little more than a dozen fighters to guard the ENTIRE eastern seaboard that day, if memory serves....(14, I think, but can't verify that at work)


Just admit it at LEAST sounds fishy.

[Warham]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
For starters, name ONE person here who has EVER claimed Chimpy as the "mastermind" behind 9/11

You can't. But then that's typical Warhammer Hyperbole

But please don't ever put Bush and Mastermind together in the same sentence again.

OK, Lounge.

Who IS the mastermind behind 9/11?

Karl Rove? lol

[FORD]

Originally posted by Warham
OK, Lounge.

Who IS the mastermind behind 9/11?

Karl Rove? lol

Ummm.... did you miss the title of the thread?

It's Uncle Dick. And it was Uncle Dick who stayed up all night Sept 10, 2001 talking with Poppy in the White House.

I'd give my left nut for a tape of that conversation.