Rumsfeld And Dubya Tell Everybody To Go To Hell

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by stringfelowhawk
Don't be so quick to judge....
I was in uniform before this jackass was given his presidency and I sure as fuck will be outta uniform before he's outta office. I won't be a part of him and his corrupt policies or helping his demigod VP line his pockets any further than he already has.

Hey, I'm not judging you, it's not your fault!

[stringfelowhawk]

I know man. It's just frustrating to have to listen to him because of an oath I didn't make to him that says, "I have to obey those appointed over me." Where as an officer swears to the Constitution and not an individual. Now you could talk semantics and say it realistically means the Constitution and rationalize it that way as I do but as it is worded it refers to "those appointed above me" so I'm stuck. It is disheartening to listen to retired Generals talk about how the civilian leadership in charge right now knows nothing about conducting war because none of them have ever fought one. It's something altogether different when you stop to realize they are all right. How do we have a career politician and two individuals that ducked a war because of connections leading a country at war with no idea of how to do that very thing? It keeps me up at night.

I have always maintained that I liked "Slick Willy" as a person but hated his foreign policy. Allowing Somalia to happen then pulling out of that could be used as a direct argument for what is happening in Iraq with the way they treat american troops. All they had to do was drag a few soldiers down the streets and we pulled out. At that point, the reason we originally went to Somalia became moot. When we left that made all these terror organizations realize how they could demoralize us without retribution. However, that being said, we did have a real reason to go into Somalia. We did not have a real reason to invade Iraq and Willy didn't lie about the intel that led to that operation.
So for as much as I disliked his policy I will gladly admit he was a great economical president and I would welcome him back if were allowed to run again. I'm not ashamed to say I'd take his presidency, impeachment and all, over this criminal empire the current "emperor" claimed to be saving us from as he ran his campaign.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by stringfelowhawk
I know man. It's just frustrating to have to listen to him because of an oath I didn't make to him that says, "I have to obey those appointed over me." Where as an officer swears to the Constitution and not an individual. Now you could talk semantics and say it realistically means the Constitution and rationalize it that way as I do but as it is worded it refers to "those appointed above me" so I'm stuck. It is disheartening to listen to retired Generals talk about how the civilian leadership in charge right now knows nothing about conducting war because none of them have ever fought one. It's something altogether different when you stop to realize they are all right. How do we have a career politician and two individuals that ducked a war because of connections leading a country at war with no idea of how to do that very thing? It keeps me up at night.

You know, it's really just shocking to try to believe that Cheney, who was the secdef during the first gulf war, and heard all arguments back then about the Sunnis and the Shias and about how hard it would be to make a democratic Iraq and root out all the Baathists, still campaigned as hard as he did for this war, before and after it was launched.

None of the stuff that's happened in Iraq since the invasion is surprising. Well, the extent of the looting maybe, but that was strategically directed by Saddam.

I mean, sheeeit. I read a couple books and I know more about war than gw does! He's a fucknut!

[blueturk]

Originally posted by ODShowtime


I mean, sheeeit. I read a couple books and I know more about war than gw does! He's a fucknut!

You've read one more book than Dubya has....

"Bill wrote a book at Yale. I read one." —George W. Bush, on William F. Buckley, Al Smith Dinner, New York City, Oct. 19, 2000