Bush Requests $1.9B to Bolster Borders

[Steve Savicki]

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/us/immigration

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And then patrolmen want a raise, the price is now $2.9B... *sigh*, when will it ever end?
Don't we have enough national debt already?

[diamondD]

If only they could have stopped your ancestors...

[4moreyears]

Re: Bush Requests $1.9B to Bolster Borders

Originally posted by Steve Savicki
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/us/immigration
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And then patrolmen want a raise, the price is now $2.9B... *sigh*, when will it ever end?
Don't we have enough national debt already?

Feel free to pay more in taxes like your liberal buddies what us to do. If you are that sick of it lets see you pay it down instead of bitching about it you faggot.

[FORD]

Re: Re: Bush Requests $1.9B to Bolster Borders

Originally posted by 4moreyears
Feel free to pay more in taxes like your liberal buddies what us to do. If you are that sick of it lets see you pay it down instead of bitching about it you faggot.

Didn't that "liberal faggot" Clinton take care of that already?

Oh that's right.... you Busheep conveniently forget that, to excuse the reckless spending of the so-called "conservatives" who conserve NOTHING.

At least the "tax and spend" liberals got the money they spent from somewhere. Chimpy gives "refunds" to leeches who don't pay taxes and then runs up a massive $9 trillion debt TO THE GODDAMNED COMMUNIST CHINESE AND TERRORIST SAUDI ARABIANS.

Suck on that, you Busheep bitch.

[Steve Savicki]

"pay more in taxes like your liberal buddies what us to do"
I didn't understand that last part of the sentence.

[DrMaddVibe]

Bullets are cheaper.

[ULTRAMAN VH]

Mexico Voters Fear Nation on Edge of Chaos
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By JULIE WATSON, The Associated Press
May 17, 2006 6:12 AM (2 days ago)

MEXICO CITY - Police enraged by the kidnapping of six officers club unarmed detainees. A bloody battle between steelworkers and police leaves two miners dead. Drug lords post the heads of decapitated police on a fence to show who's in charge.


Less than two months before Mexicans elect their next president, many fear the country is teetering on the edge of chaos - a perception that could hurt the ruling National Action Party's chances of keeping the presidency and benefit Mexico's once-powerful Institutional Revolutionary Party, whose candidate has been trailing badly.

Some blame President Vicente Fox for a weak government. Others say rivals are instigating the violence to create that impression, hoping to hurt National Action candidate Felipe Calderon, who has a slight lead in recent polls.

A poll published Friday in Excelsior newspaper found 50 percent of respondents feared the government was on the brink of losing control. The polling company Parametria conducted face-to-face interviews at 1,000 homes across Mexico. The poll had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

The conflicts are "a warning sign," said Yamel Nares, Parametria's research director.

Security is the top concern for Mexicans, and Fox has struggled to reform Mexico's notoriously corrupt police. Meanwhile, drug-related bloodshed has accelerated, with some cities seeing killings almost daily.

In April, suspected drug lords posted the heads of two police officers on a wall outside a government building where four drug traffickers died in a Jan. 27 shootout with officers in the Pacific resort of Acapulco.

A sign nearby read: "So that you learn to respect."

Last week, Zapatista rebel leader Subcomandante Marcos said Mexico was in a "state of rage," and warned that tensions were similar to those that preceded the Zapatistas' brief armed uprising in January 1994 in the southern state of Chiapas.

He said his group is committed to peace, but many fear his increased public profile - after years of hiding out in the jungle - could foreshadow greater polarization among Mexican voters.

The masked leader said a May 3 clash that left a teenager dead and scores injured in San Salvador Atenco, 15 miles northeast of Mexico City, is an example of the growing tensions.

Marcos has been leading nearly daily demonstrations in the town following the incident, which began when a radical group of townspeople kidnapped and beat six policemen in a dispute over unlicensed flower vendors. Police responded with rage the next day. Television crews captured officers repeatedly beating unarmed protesters, and several detained women alleged officers raped them.

The clash followed another bloody battle between steelworkers and police trying to break up an illegal strike at a plant in Lazaro Cardenas last month. Unions later threatened to shut down the country.

George Grayson, a Mexico expert at the College of William & Mary, said the violence reflects Fox's lack of leadership.

"The state has become much weaker under his watch," Grayson said.

Recent polls show Calderon has overtaken longtime presidential front-runner Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, whom opponents have portrayed as a leftist demagogue similar to Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

But that could change if PRI candidate Roberto Madrazo can convince voters that Mexico was more stable under his party's 71-year reign, which ended with Fox's victory in 2000. Mexican law bars presidents from seeking re-election.

Madrazo has tried to paint himself as the law-and-order candidate - though so far his poll numbers have remained well behind those of Calderon and Lopez Obrador.

"It's not going to help Lopez Obrador who has been associated with the rabble rousers, but Madrazo can come out and say with his party at least Mexico had continued stability," Grayson said.

Gerardo Aranda, a tourism guide in Mexico City, said he won't go back to the PRI, but he doesn't know who he will vote for.

"No one really knows now what could happen next," he said. "All the candidates are bad. ... There is so much anger toward the government, everyone is against everything."

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
*Mexico Voters Fear Nation on Edge of Chaos*

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[ULTRAMAN VH]

Mr. Savicki, the above article states clearly why we need to close the borders.

[binnie]

Immigration is a big issue here too.

The problem is this.

I don't think anyone would object to helping those in genuine need, but we need to know who is coming into our countries, in order to protect our own people.

I am not a liberal, but I think every case should be treated on its own merit. If we had fair systems for letting people in, chances are there would be much less illegal immigration.

But that would cost money.

[FORD]

Originally posted by binnie
Immigration is a big issue here too.

The problem is this.

I don't think anyone would object to helping those in genuine need, but we need to know who is coming into our countries, in order to protect our own people.

I am not a liberal, but I think every case should be treated on its own merit. If we had fair systems for letting people in, chances are there would be much less illegal immigration.

But that would cost money.

And how much of your money has Tony Poodle wasted on Chimpy's great Iraqi misadventure?

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by binnie
Immigration is a big issue here too.

The problem is this.

I don't think anyone would object to helping those in genuine need, but we need to know who is coming into our countries, in order to protect our own people.

I am not a liberal, but I think every case should be treated on its own merit. If we had fair systems for letting people in, chances are there would be much less illegal immigration.

But that would cost money.

Well, how about really introducing fair trade and helping poor countries develope instead of installing market barriers and selling dictators and wannabee guerrillas weapons??

I don´t think your average Morrocan would want to leave his home if he had at least a semi-decent outlook there!

[General Fraud]

Mexico is a nation of terror. Those Mexicotians are terrorists against the great country of America, and the entire planet of Houston. Now I'm willing to bet that they're in league with Osama. Maybe even Jor-El himself. Look at 9/11. Now why didn't those guys washing the windows say to somebody "Hey - there are some planes coming here really damn quick"? That's what I'd like to know, and those Mexicotians don't have a good answer.

My sources have also informed me that those Mexicotians are probably hiding weapons of mass destruction and that they're going to use them if they don't get their way on immigration issues.

I, General Fraud, will not stand for this. My rule is absolute. All knees will bow to me. And if those Mexicotians don't get in line really quick kneel before me and shut their insolent mouths, their evil will be dealt with.

I do this to protect the American people who worship me.

Kneel before Fraud.

[BITEYOASS]

Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Mexico Voters Fear Nation on Edge of Chaos
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By JULIE WATSON, The Associated Press
May 17, 2006 6:12 AM (2 days ago)

MEXICO CITY - Police enraged by the kidnapping of six officers club unarmed detainees. A bloody battle between steelworkers and police leaves two miners dead. Drug lords post the heads of decapitated police on a fence to show who's in charge.


Less than two months before Mexicans elect their next president, many fear the country is teetering on the edge of chaos - a perception that could hurt the ruling National Action Party's chances of keeping the presidency and benefit Mexico's once-powerful Institutional Revolutionary Party, whose candidate has been trailing badly.

Some blame President Vicente Fox for a weak government. Others say rivals are instigating the violence to create that impression, hoping to hurt National Action candidate Felipe Calderon, who has a slight lead in recent polls.

A poll published Friday in Excelsior newspaper found 50 percent of respondents feared the government was on the brink of losing control. The polling company Parametria conducted face-to-face interviews at 1,000 homes across Mexico. The poll had a margin of error of 3 percentage points.

The conflicts are "a warning sign," said Yamel Nares, Parametria's research director.

Security is the top concern for Mexicans, and Fox has struggled to reform Mexico's notoriously corrupt police. Meanwhile, drug-related bloodshed has accelerated, with some cities seeing killings almost daily.

In April, suspected drug lords posted the heads of two police officers on a wall outside a government building where four drug traffickers died in a Jan. 27 shootout with officers in the Pacific resort of Acapulco.

A sign nearby read: "So that you learn to respect."

Last week, Zapatista rebel leader Subcomandante Marcos said Mexico was in a "state of rage," and warned that tensions were similar to those that preceded the Zapatistas' brief armed uprising in January 1994 in the southern state of Chiapas.

He said his group is committed to peace, but many fear his increased public profile - after years of hiding out in the jungle - could foreshadow greater polarization among Mexican voters.

The masked leader said a May 3 clash that left a teenager dead and scores injured in San Salvador Atenco, 15 miles northeast of Mexico City, is an example of the growing tensions.

Marcos has been leading nearly daily demonstrations in the town following the incident, which began when a radical group of townspeople kidnapped and beat six policemen in a dispute over unlicensed flower vendors. Police responded with rage the next day. Television crews captured officers repeatedly beating unarmed protesters, and several detained women alleged officers raped them.

The clash followed another bloody battle between steelworkers and police trying to break up an illegal strike at a plant in Lazaro Cardenas last month. Unions later threatened to shut down the country.

George Grayson, a Mexico expert at the College of William & Mary, said the violence reflects Fox's lack of leadership.

"The state has become much weaker under his watch," Grayson said.

Recent polls show Calderon has overtaken longtime presidential front-runner Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, whom opponents have portrayed as a leftist demagogue similar to Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

But that could change if PRI candidate Roberto Madrazo can convince voters that Mexico was more stable under his party's 71-year reign, which ended with Fox's victory in 2000. Mexican law bars presidents from seeking re-election.

Madrazo has tried to paint himself as the law-and-order candidate - though so far his poll numbers have remained well behind those of Calderon and Lopez Obrador.

"It's not going to help Lopez Obrador who has been associated with the rabble rousers, but Madrazo can come out and say with his party at least Mexico had continued stability," Grayson said.

Gerardo Aranda, a tourism guide in Mexico City, said he won't go back to the PRI, but he doesn't know who he will vote for.

"No one really knows now what could happen next," he said. "All the candidates are bad. ... There is so much anger toward the government, everyone is against everything."

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
*Mexico Voters Fear Nation on Edge of Chaos*

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Sounds like what will happen here if the gas prices keep going up and the big business oligarchy keeps fucking over middle class wages.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Bullets are cheaper.

Just like mobile homes in Florida.....

[binnie]

Ford, when I said "That would cost money"

i was being sarcastic, meaning that a fair system will never come in becuase it cost's too much, even tho' we all know it makes sense.

Totally against the "war" in Iraq

BTW, it was never a "war", as a war is when two sides are fighting!