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Originally posted by jcook11 BBB: Had wmd's been found you already know FORDS' response
" The fucking BCE planted them!"
"I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to answer questions. I can't answer your question." —George W. Bush, in response to a question about whether he wished he could take back any of his answers in the first debate. Reynoldsburg, Ohio, Oct. 4, 2000
Practically every major security agency thought Saddam was trying to aqquire WMDs including the Russians, British, Israeli and U.S.
It was completely unreasonable to ignore such a threat and it is unreasonable to say that Bush lied when practically anyone who matters was saying that that was happening.
Hussein has history for using chemical weapons and has previously also tried to purchase nuclear capabilities (which I believe the French helped him with). The fact is it wasn't an unbelievable situation- it also hasn't been disproved.
Originally posted by van whalin Practically every major security agency thought Saddam was trying to aqquire WMDs including the Russians, British, Israeli and U.S.
It was completely unreasonable to ignore such a threat and it is unreasonable to say that Bush lied when practically anyone who matters was saying that that was happening.
Hussein has history for using chemical weapons and has previously also tried to purchase nuclear capabilities (which I believe the French helped him with). The fact is it wasn't an unbelievable situation- it also hasn't been disproved.
Because we told them.
There were (and are) far more credible threats in the world at that time.
15 May 2001 testimony before the Foreign Operations, Export Financing and Related Programs Subcommittee of the Senate Appropriations Committee.
Secretary Powell: "The sanctions, as they are called, have succeeded over the last 10 years, not in deterring him from moving in that direction, but from actually being able to move in that direction. The Iraqi regime militarily remains fairly weak. It doesn't have the capacity it had 10 or 12 years ago. It has been contained. And even though we have no doubt in our mind that the Iraqi regime is pursuing programs to develop weapons of mass destruction -- chemical, biological and nuclear -- I think the best intelligence estimates suggest that they have not been terribly successful. There's no question that they have some stockpiles of some of these sorts of weapons still under their control, but they have not been able to break out, they have not been able to come out with the capacity to deliver these kinds of systems or to actually have these kinds of systems that is much beyond where they were 10 years ago."
and
29 July 2001 Condoleezza Rice appeared on CNN Late Edition With Wolf Blitzer [Guest host: John King] asked Rice about the fact that Iraq had recently fired on US planes enforcing the "no-fly zones" in Iraq. Rice craftily responds:
"Well, the president has made very clear that he considers Saddam Hussein to be a threat to his neighbors, a threat to security in the region, in fact a threat to international security more broadly. But in terms of Saddam Hussein being there, let's remember that his country is divided, in effect. He does not control the northern part of his country. We are able to keep arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt."
Why didn't Bush & co plant some WMD's for our troops to "find". People already believe they have done a bunch of sneaky shit already. Why not this? It would have been fairly easy. Just one small weapons cache in a bunker with some chemicals.
Either way, enjoy!
“Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”
It was never ALL about the oil. The motivation for the PNAC'ers was obvious going back (at least) as far as their document A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm which was written by the PNAC'ers along with the Likud regime of Bennie Netanyahu. Even then, the overthrow of Iraq, Iran, and Syria (among others) was part of this agenda based on an ultra right wing mutation of Zionism, which believes that God literally gave all the land from the Mediterranean sea to the Euphrates river to the Jews.
Many of the PNAC'ers are Israeli citizens. Some hold dual citizenship with the US. Others are Israeli nationals yet are still somehow employed within the US government, at the highest levels, including the Pentagon.
This used to be called espionage. Now its' business as usual for BCE/PNAC
Likud Zionism was probably 50% of the motivation for the invasion of Iraq. If the Iran swindle is allowed to proceed, their stake in it will be more like 85 - 90%.
Make no mistake, this is Likud's war. And it's about time those fascist motherfuckers were cut off completely from US aid.
Let alone actually holding US government jobs, for fucks sake.
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
Originally posted by FORD It was never ALL about the oil. The motivation for the PNAC'ers was obvious going back (at least) as far as their document A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm which was written by the PNAC'ers along with the Likud regime of Bennie Netanyahu. Even then, the overthrow of Iraq, Iran, and Syria (among others) was part of this agenda based on an ultra right wing mutation of Zionism, which believes that God literally gave all the land from the Mediterranean sea to the Euphrates river to the Jews.
Many of the PNAC'ers are Israeli citizens. Some hold dual citizenship with the US. Others are Israeli nationals yet are still somehow employed within the US government, at the highest levels, including the Pentagon.
This used to be called espionage. Now its' business as usual for BCE/PNAC
Likud Zionism was probably 50% of the motivation for the invasion of Iraq. If the Iran swindle is allowed to proceed, their stake in it will be more like 85 - 90%.
Make no mistake, this is Likud's war. And it's about time those fascist motherfuckers were cut off completely from US aid.
Let alone actually holding US government jobs, for fucks sake.
And the number of Israeli troops on the ground is how many?...Dumb ASS, go huff some more paint I hear gold wacks you out the best.
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