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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    In search of relevance

    In search of relevance
    Jun 13, 2006
    by David Limbaugh

    Sen. John Kerry's brand-new legislation to withdraw our troops from Iraq is the latest example of Democrats undermining our war effort and trying to make themselves relevant.

    Kerry said his legislation would pull the majority of U.S. troops out of Iraq by the end of 2006, contingent upon establishing a schedule with the Iraqi government. "This will legitimize the new Iraqi government, enable the Iraqis to become more self-reliant, and undermine support for the insurgency."

    Try to forget, if you can, Kerry's ridiculous statement that a bill telegraphing U.S. withdrawal from Iraq would "undermine support for the insurgency," when it would do precisely the opposite.


    Every time there is good news coming out of Iraq, such as Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's death, Democrats can't allow the news cycle to pass without trying to put a damper on it. It's as if they're saying, "Hey, look at us. We matter, too. We also have ideas on Iraq. Pay no attention to the good news. The news is all bad all the time. Remember: Bush is a liar."

    What was the Democrats' response to the January 2005 Iraqi elections establishing a transition government and the phenomenal voter turnout? They joined the administration in celebrating the historic event, right? Wrong. Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., convened her ad hoc group of some 20 Democratic congressmen (the "Iraqi working group") to formulate the party's response to the elections. I kid you not. They believed they needed to prepare a response to the Iraqi triumph, as if Iraqi's good news was their bad news. Of course, from their perspective, it probably was, because it was also good news for President Bush.

    Just a fluke, you say? Well, then how do you suppose they responded after the December 2005 elections to establish a permanent government for Iraq? Pelosi briefly congratulated Iraq's progress toward democracy, then issued a statement berating President Bush for diverting our resources from capturing Osama to Iraq -- a staggering non sequitur. It was like saying, "Our success in helping to bring constitutional self-rule to Iraq as a result of President Bush's visionary decision to attack Iraq and oust Saddam Hussein is proof that we made the wrong decision in attacking Iraq."

    But it gets worse. Pelosi added, "There are ways for the United States to make Iraq more stable that do not require 160,000 U.S. troops in Iraq and which would make the American people safer and the Middle East more secure." Remember now, that was her response to the Iraqi election. Why did she feel it necessary to gratuitously criticize Bush's policy in the wake of that event, other than to downplay the fruits of Bush's policy decisions, and at the same time make sure Democrats were included in Iraq-related news?

    The Democrats' behavior is indeed part of an unmistakable pattern. John Kerry's latest legislative proposal is not the only recent example. On "Fox News Sunday" Democratic Congresswoman Jane Harman, D-Calif., said that we are not succeeding militarily in Iraq, that our objectives "can best be achieved politically, not militarily," and that we ought to "redeploy our troops … start moving them out of Iraq, putting some in Kuwait and Jordan," and more in Baghdad.

    When Newt Gingrich wisely admonished Harman that on specific decisions as to troop deployment "we ought to rely on General Abizaid and General Casey," because they deal with these issues, on the ground, every day, Harman disagreed, sort of.

    She said she admired Abizaid and Casey, but the president and his advisers ought to make the decision and it ought to focus on a political strategy. But, then she said we ought to have a "redeployment strategy led by the generals," not Congress making armchair decisions on the withdrawal or redeployment schedule. Another glaring non sequitur.

    In the brief span of a few minutes Harman said: a) we ought to redeploy our troops now irrespective of what the generals recommend, b) the president ought to make these decisions, and c) the generals should make the decisions. In other words, she would simultaneously follow the generals' advice and ignore it.

    Harman is not a stupid woman, but she is advocating flagrantly inconsistent positions. The only explanation is that along with the rest of her party's leadership she is seeking to establish Democratic Party relevance on Iraq, while discrediting President Bush. And that's giving her the benefit of the doubt.


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  • DEMON CUNT
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Nov 2004
    • 3242

    #2
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    • Hardrock69
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Feb 2005
      • 21897

      #3
      Brian is searching for relevance again...

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      • Terry
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jan 2004
        • 12123

        #4
        This wonderful new brand of democracy we're bringing to Iraq is gonna last all of a New York minute after we leave, and I don't think leaving troops there forever is a realistic option, so just how long are we supposed to stay there, and for what purpose?

        The whole endeavor had a bullshit pretext, piss-poor planning by a DOD Secretary who thought it best to go in on the cheap, and a fundamental lack of understanding regarding the divisions within Iraq's own population.

        And these bozos now wanna do IRAN? They'd be better off going back and fixing Afghanistan.

        Take Kerry out of the equation: IMO, anyone that believes what we're doing in Iraq will have a lasting impact is just foolish. I'd be willing to wager most of Iraq wants us out of there, and probably a majority of Americans would like to see it happen, too. The goals are unattainable, so 'winning' is no longer an option. At this point, it's just what degree of loss we're gonna end up settling for.
        Scramby eggs and bacon.

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        • BigBadBrian
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 10625

          #5
          Originally posted by Terry
          The goals are unattainable, so 'winning' is no longer an option. At this point, it's just what degree of loss we're gonna end up settling for.
          I'm just curious as to how you would define a "loss?" For that matter, I'm curious as to how you would define a "win", since you fell one is unobtainable.

          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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          • BigBadBrian
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jan 2004
            • 10625

            #6
            Demon Cunt, we really don't want to see any more pics of your boyfriend. If the mods were doing their jobs, this pic wouldn't be here.

            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 59570

              #7
              David Limbaugh, the "Chris Jagger" of right wing windbags, is always in search of his own relevance.
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • DEMON CUNT
                Crazy Ass Mofo
                • Nov 2004
                • 3242

                #8
                Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                Demon Cunt, we really don't want to see any more pics of your boyfriend. If the mods were doing their jobs, this pic wouldn't be here.

                All this crying makes you sound like a little baby girl! And much like that baby, you lack the ability to generate an original thought, concept or topic.

                Seriously dude, you are practically retarded.
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                • LoungeMachine
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 32576

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigBadBrian


                  If the mods were doing their jobs, this pic wouldn't be here.


                  Which mods do you think have editing powers in here?

                  I never have.


                  Isn't it funny how you CRY like a little girl when you feel a mod in here has edited you, but you want us to edit other's posts......

                  hypocrite
                  Originally posted by Kristy
                  Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                  Originally posted by cadaverdog
                  I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                    Which mods do you think have editing powers in here?

                    I never have.


                    Isn't it funny how you CRY like a little girl when you feel a mod in here has edited you, but you want us to edit other's posts......

                    hypocrite
                    No.

                    Homosexual pictures have never been allowed at the RothArmy.

                    This is a different matter entirely.

                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • BigBadBrian
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10625

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
                      All this crying makes you sound like a little baby girl! And much like that baby, you lack the ability to generate an original thought, concept or topic.

                      Seriously dude, you are practically retarded.
                      I'm not the one posting all the shit and homo pictures.

                      You are...fag.

                      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                      • LoungeMachine
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32576

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                        No.

                        Homosexual pictures have never been allowed at the RothArmy.

                        This is a different matter entirely.

                        No cock shots are the rule.

                        I enforce the rule.

                        I alerted DC when he did it once, and he has not done so since.


                        The rest is a matter of degrees, opinion, and free speech.

                        Why not send an alert and let the webbies decide if you're so offended.


                        I treat his pics much like I treat most of your posts. Not to my liking, and not worthy of my interest.



                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                        • DEMON CUNT
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 3242

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                          I'm not the one posting all the shit and homo pictures.

                          You are...fag.
                          Are you afraid if "homo pictures" Brian?
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