get the jews out of palestine

[Mr Grimsdale]

can we stop bible class and see some pron?

[secrets]

Pronounce this:

Shirley shaved Sean slowly but surely
Shirley shaved Sean slowly but surely
Shirley shaved Sean slowly but surely

And again faster.

Shirley shaved Sean slowly but surely
Shirley shaved Sean slowly but surely
Shirley shaved Sean slowly but surely

Well done children.

[ELVIS]

What's pron ??

[FORD]

Must be British porn

[Mr Grimsdale]

Originally posted by ELVIS
What's pron ??

Originally posted by ELVIS
What's pron ??

elvis, you really need to visit the dump more often

it's an education!

[FORD]

Originally posted by secrets
Well the title itself "Get the Jews out of Palestine" is pretty much the motto of Jew haters the world over these days, from the far right to the loony left.

So you're saying that "Get the Jews Out of Palestine" is a hateful statement, but "We Owe The Arabs Nothing" isn't?

There's a lot of legitimate anger, from Palestinians, from Jews, and from everywhere else on the planet over the policies of the current Israeli government, specifically the Likud party and most especially Ariel Sharon, a convicted war criminal who obviously has no intentions of changing his ways. But that has no more to do with "hatred of Jews" than opposition to the Bush Criminal Empire has to do with "hatred of America".

That said, and as I'm in favour of freedom of expression, I think it's pretty flipant and mostly tongue-in-cheek nonsense here. Although you should ask yourself what kind of cheek you find your tongue in, and is it clean?

This thread is ok (actually it's quite funny really), but I've seen some really nasty stuff elswhere on this site that really would be better on the BNP website or other Neo-Nazi sites.

Ask yourself this question: Could I look David Lee Roth square in the eye, saying what I've just posted here?

Seriously, it's basically the equivalent of posting on a Hendrix fan site, "I hate ******s."

Again, I don't see any statements being posted that refer to hatred of Jews, though the "big nose" thing is an obvious stereotype. And one that can be disproven by looking at Osama Bin Laden - who obviously isn't Jewish, or John Kerry, who is only 1/4 Jewish (and didn't even know that until a few years ago). But on the other hand, as Adam Sandler has reminded us, Harrison Ford, Goldie Hawn, Captain Kirk, Spock, Winona Ryder, and Diamond Dave himself are all Jewish to one degree or another, and I don't recall any of the above having that big of a nose.

As far as the Hendrix reference goes, I don't think that's a valid comparison. David Lee Roth isn't killing Palestinians any more than Jimi Hendrix was helping out Idi Amin in Uganda.

My genetic makeup is about 75% German. Jokes about "krauts" or Volkswagons or whatever don't effect me. Even jokes about German stereotypes - Hell, I'm blonde, blue eyed, over 6 feet tall and like to drink beer. Want to joke about that? Knock yourself out. I don't give a shit. Or if people want to make some dumbass "Nazi" jokes - which you probably wouldn't, but others have- obviously anyone who has read my posts knows I'm about as far from a Nazi as you can get. And I can say proudly that my family was here since the mid 1800's, so none of my relatives fell for Hitler's bullshit. Or Bush's either

[secrets]

Originally posted by FORD
Again, I don't see any statements being posted that refer to hatred of Jews.

My genetic makeup is about 75% German.... anyone who has read my posts knows I'm about as far from a Nazi as you can get. And I can say proudly that my family was here since the mid 1800's, so none of my relatives fell for Hitler's bullshit. Or Bush's either

I stand by my comments. There is an element of Jew-bashing
at Roth Army and it is racist. I'm talking about comments like these which were found on another thread:

Originally posted by FORD
If Ariel Sharon wants to do something about anti-semitism, he can start by shooting himself in the head. Likud and PNAC are "Jews" that Hitler would have loved and their actions are more like the children of Adolf than the children of Abraham. They are a disgrace not only to the Jewish people, but the human race overall. These terrorist pieces of shit may very well be the people that John the Revelator was referring to when he said....

Originally posted by flappo
personally , i think it's an excellent idea , let's get all teh jews together in israel , build a big wall round them , then paint a big target on their country

give al-qaeda something to aim at

fucking bastard zionist scum !

If you can't see the problem with comments like these, which advocate the killing of Jews then you are wrong to say you are different from your German brethren, who would have killed the world Jewish population given the chance.

Comments like these only show up the sedement of hatred that still remains in this world against Jews. I personally find this intolerable on a fan site for David Lee Roth, someone who is proud of his Jewishness.

The article I posted about Arabs did not in anyway advocate the killing of people and was simply critical of oppressive regimes. Yet you stated that you could've removed it. Why? Had the criticism been of Israel and Sharon it would have been ok I guess.

I am reminded of the character in Spike Lee's "Do The Right Thing" played by John Tuturro who works in a pizza restaurant. He hates black people, but all his favourite musicians, comedians etc are all black. A contradiction. There are a lot of guys like that here IMHO.

[flappo]

i have arab pals and jewish ones

en masse any race is a threat to another

it's just a shame we can't all get on

you can't fucking take it with you

oh and i have a few black and indian mates too

the racist stuff is ALL a joke

i assure you

[flappo]

having said that

what ford said was correct

if you're so defensive even when you're wrong

what more can i say ?

[flappo]

the fundamental problem

teh reason that al-qaeda is at war with the usa

is that they perceive that america is controlled by jews

its as simple as that

[flappo]

and as for saying i hate jews

well

my 3 all time heroes are ALL jewish

david lee roth , jerry lewis and jack kirby

nuff said

[FORD]

The argument that opposition to Likud & PNAC = anti-semitism is ridiculous.

Would I be a racist for saying that Mike Tyson is a rapist, ear biting thug, or that Michael Jackson is a piece of shit pedophile?

Would I be a homophobe for saying that Richard Simmons gets on my nerves?

Am I anti Catholic because I want priestophiles to be locked up in prison where all bastards who fuck children belong?

I'm not opposed to anybody on this planet for reasons of race, gender, religious affiliation, or sexual orientation. I'm opposed to individuals and/or groups based on their actions.

And the actions of PNAC/Likud are very much following the path that Hitler took 70 years ago. The fact some of these fascists happen to be Jewish should disturb you as much if not more than it does me. Because obviously Jews, having been on the recieving end of such behavior, should be the last ones who would inflict it on others. Yet the reality is inescapable. It **IS** happenning, and it must be stopped, or the concentration camps and mass graves will be the outcome again. And I know the majority of Jews, along with the majority of the rest of the planet, doesn't want to see that again.

the 14 Symptoms of Fascism
by Dr. Lawrence Britt

America scores 14 outta 14 wheather one wants to admit it or not. Anyone who takes an honest look will agree. Here's a test... Go ask any minority. Ask women. Leave out the team sport watching, SUV driving, over-weight, white American male and see what answers you get.

• 01. Powerful & Continuing Nationalism
  Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
  
  02. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
  Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
  
  03. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
  The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
  
  04. Supremacy of the Military
  Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
  
  05. Rampant Sexism
  the governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homo-sexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
  
  06. Controlled Mass Media
  Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
  
  07. Obsession with National Security
  Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
  
  08. Religion & Government are Intertwined
  Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
  
  09. Corporate Power is Protected
  The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
  
  10. Labor Power is Suppressed
  Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
  
  11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
  Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
  
  12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
  Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
  
  13. Rampant Cronyism & Corruption
  Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
  
  14. Fraudulent Elections
  Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

http://empirewatch.org/pages/_archives/fascism/pages/14_symptoms/

[secrets]

I'm not racist but......

Had a truly great reply, then the computer crashes:confused: call it divine intervention if you like.

I'm glad you're not racists. But your posts were quite aggressive in tone.

Ford is right to say that criticism of Likud / Israel is not AntiSemitism I agree 100%. However advocating the death or murder of Jews IS, whichever way you want to look at it. If this is humour I must be missing something here!

This is cyber-swastikas. Easier than spraying on a wall. No CCTV.

As for comparing modern day Israel to Nazi Germany:

One thing is not the same as another thing. Sell this one to Osama and Arafat I'm not buying.

Yes the Palestinians have suffered terribly. They still suffer to this day. But who is to blame for this? Israel gave full citizenship to all Arabs within its borders and they benefit from living in a democratic country. Those Palestinians in Arab countries (apart from Jordon) have not received citizenship, live in oppressive regimes and remain in refugee camps. This is all designed to make Israel look bad, and it works.

Israel has made concessions and compromised in order to achieve peace with the Palestinians. Instead of negotiating the Palestinians have chosen to kill innocent Israelis in a series of suicide bombings. Where is the sympathy for those victims?

Overall Israel shows magninimity towards a people that want to harm and destroy everything they stand for.

Ask yourself this, what magninimity did the Naziz show towards European Jews in WW2? None.

Let's try and look at the bigger picture here and stop making cyber-swastikas.

Peace brothers.

[flappo]

ford is a wise man

is he jewish too ?

[FORD]

Originally posted by flappo
ford is a wise man

is he jewish too ?

Nope. But my name IS David, just like two of the most famous Jews in history. That would be DLR and the dude with the slingshot who the star on Israel's flag was named after.