Wtf?!?

[Satan]

Originally posted by Cathedral
who created the Kamikazi's? and, do you look back on them as terrorists?

There's a question that is far more loaded than you realize. Because if the Japanese were terrorists during WWII, then the BCE and Israel are terrorists NOW.

Or in other words, if the official military actions of any country can be declared "terrorism" , then that even further blurs the lines of something Chimpy refuses to define in the first place.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Satan
There's a question that is far more loaded than you realize. Because if the Japanese were terrorists during WWII, then the BCE and Israel are terrorists NOW.

Or in other words, if the official military actions of any country can be declared "terrorism" , then that even further blurs the lines of something Chimpy refuses to define in the first place.

Oh i'm aware of how loaded the question was, and i can't argue with your post at all.


Main Entry: ter·ror
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r, 'te-r&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French terrour, from Latin terror, from terrEre to frighten; akin to Greek trein to be afraid, flee, tremein to tremble -- more at TREMBLE
1 : a state of intense fear
2 a : one that inspires fear : SCOURGE b : a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion> c : a cause of anxiety : WORRY d : an appalling person or thing; especially : BRAT
3 : REIGN OF TERROR
4 : violent or destructive acts (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands <insurrection and revolutionary terror>
synonym see FEAR
- ter·ror·less /-l&s/ adjective

By definition, even having a military is an act of terrorism, and the military itself is a terror organization.

Then it becomes a moral issue, much like voting for the lesser of two evils.
Man is inherently evil, period.

My point was simply that NOT killing those who want to kill you is no answer. you either kill or be killed, that's life and you can't deny it.

[Satan]

Originally posted by Cathedral


Then it becomes a moral issue, much like voting for the lesser of two evils.
Man is inherently evil, period.

Man's not inherently evil. Only I am inherently evil. Man is just inherently weak enough to go with the evil option often enough.

My point was simply that NOT killing those who want to kill you is no answer. you either kill or be killed, that's life and you can't deny it.

Damn, I've gotten a lot of mileage out of that one over the centuries. I really can't believe you mortals still fall for it. I wouldn't complain, but my construction costs down here are ridiculous right now, trying to keep up with all the new arrivals from the Middle East.

Too bad I don't have an immigration problem coming over the river Styx like you do coming over the Rio Grande. I could use some cheap under the table construction labor!

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Satan
Man's not inherently evil. Only I am inherently evil. Man is just inherently weak enough to go with the evil option often enough.



Damn, I've gotten a lot of mileage out of that one over the centuries. I really can't believe you mortals still fall for it. I wouldn't complain, but my construction costs down here are ridiculous right now, trying to keep up with all the new arrivals from the Middle East.

Too bad I don't have an immigration problem coming over the river Styx like you do coming over the Rio Grande. I could use some cheap under the table construction labor!

Ok, let me correct that statement...The HEART of man is inherently evil.

I got no problem with people killing people, as long as they leave the innocent victims out of it.

But that is contradictory, actually.
Since the heart of man is inherently evil there are no innocent people.

Things is, except for those whome you recieve, I don't hear the others complaining...they MUST be in a better place, eh?

The world sucks, and so do those who run it.

[ELVIS]

"Dune Coons" ??

[Satan]

Originally posted by ELVIS
"Dune Coons" ??

A slightly more retarded variation on "Sand ******s", on would assume. It's a shame that people actually waste perfectly good brain cells making up new racist terminology.

[BigBadBrian]

Re: Re: Wtf?!?

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Look at the Neocon retard filled with venom and hate. "demoRAT," that's classic GayVibe. Such anger, such vitriolic hatred!

C'mon Nick, you never call out the Liberals here on the board who make fun of conservative names. Do I see a double standard here?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Oh i'm aware of how loaded the question was, and i can't argue with your post at all.


Main Entry: ter·ror
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r, 'te-r&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French terrour, from Latin terror, from terrEre to frighten; akin to Greek trein to be afraid, flee, tremein to tremble -- more at TREMBLE
1 : a state of intense fear
2 a : one that inspires fear : SCOURGE b : a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion> c : a cause of anxiety : WORRY d : an appalling person or thing; especially : BRAT
3 : REIGN OF TERROR
4 : violent or destructive acts (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands <insurrection and revolutionary terror>
synonym see FEAR
- ter·ror·less /-l&s/ adjective

By definition, even having a military is an act of terrorism, and the military itself is a terror organization.

Then it becomes a moral issue, much like voting for the lesser of two evils.
Man is inherently evil, period.

My point was simply that NOT killing those who want to kill you is no answer. you either kill or be killed, that's life and you can't deny it.

Many army's evolved out of terrorist organizations, including the Israeli Army, the Algerian Army, the Indonesian Army, the Italian Army and factions of what would now be considered the U.S. Nat'l Guard/Army Reserve (the American militia used terror tactics and ethnic cleansing, as did the pro-British Tories, during the Revolutionary War, we today refer to them as Patriot 'guerillas.')

It's simply not as cut and dry, black and white, as many would like to make it. And then there is "state terrorism," in which gov'ts use terror tactics. What makes them at all morally superior to indigenous resistance movements? The U.S. has supported many state terrorists.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Satan
Man's not inherently evil. Only I am inherently evil. Man is just inherently weak enough to go with the evil option often enough.

No, you are wrong (once again) and Cathedral is correct: Man is an evil and wicked creature.

FORD, for someone claiming to be a Christian, you don't know very much, do you?

Peace.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Satan
Wow, a congressman trying to represent his constituency.

What a crime.

Yet a Liberal (Sensible Shoes) whined about this very thing in the stem cell thread. Amazing. No, I won't paint "all of you" with that broad brush. Just wanted to point out that this goes both ways.

Good day.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
No, you are wrong (once again) and Cathedral is correct: Man is an evil and wicked creature...

And invisible woodsprites and fairies dance around the Magic Oak Tree of Grokkingâ„¢ to ward off evil spirits during the Autumn Equinox...

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
And invisible woodsprites and fairies dance around the Magic Oak Tree of Grokkingâ„¢ to ward off evil spirits during the Autumn Equinox...

Liberal "tolerance" at it's finest.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Liberal "tolerance" at it's finest.

How was I being anything but tolerant?

You're the one that thinks everybody is inherently "evil."

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
Of course I believe in terrorist organizations. I also believe that blowing them up only makes more of them.

The world is a complicated place and it's problems cannot be solved by violence.

Nickdfresh is right about our government's previous dealings with terrorists.

ITS SOOOOOOOOOOO COMPLICATED!



Ahmadinejad: Destroy Israel, end crisis

By SEAN YOONG, Associated Press Writer




Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Thursday the solution to the Middle East crisis is to destroy Israel. In a speech during an emergency meeting of Muslim leaders, Ahmadinejad also called for an immediate halt to fighting in Lebanon between Israel and the Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah.

"Although the main solution is for the elimination of the Zionist regime, at this stage an immediate cease-fire must be implemented," he said.

Ahmadinejad, who has drawn international condemnation with previous calls for Israel to be wiped off the map, said the Middle East would be better off "without the existence of the Zionist regime."

Israel "is an illegitimate regime, there is no legal basis for its existence," he said.

In Jerusalem, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev responded by noting the ties between Ahmadinejad's regime and Hezbollah.

"Our operation in Lebanon is designed to neutralize one of the long arms of Iran — Hezbollah," Regev said. "Hezbollah is their proxy, being used as an instrument of Teheran to advance their extremist agenda and the blow to Hezbollah is a blow to Iranian interests and a blow to all extremist jihadist forces in the region."

Ahmadinejad accused the United States of using Israel to try to control the Middle East and its oil wealth.

"Today the Americans are after the greater Middle East," he said. "The Zionist regime is used to reach this objective. The sole existence of this regime is for invasion and attack."

He urged Muslim states to "isolate" the United States and Britain, accusing them of supporting Israel's military offensive and saying they should be expelled from the U.N. Security Council.

Ahmadinejad also rejected proposals for deploying international troops along the Israeli-Lebanese border to separate the warring parties.

"Peace and security in Lebanon and its borders has to be preserved by the Lebanese government and people. Deployment of foreign forces is not acceptable in any shape unless it is just, based on U.N. rules and preserves the unity and territorial integrity of Lebanon," he said.

[BITEYOASS]

Ad if Israel is so innocent, accidental attack my ass!

The following USS Liberty personnel were killed in the incident:

Cryptologic Technician 3rd Class William B. Allenbaugh, USN
Lieutenant Commander Philip A. Armstrong Jr., USN
Seaman Gary R. Blanchard, USN
Cryptologic Technician 2nd Class Allen M. Blue, NSA
Quartermaster 3rd Class Francis Brown, USN
Cryptologic Technician 2nd Ronnie J. Campbell, USN
Cryptologic Technician 2nd Class Jerry L. Converse, USN
Cryptologic Technician 2nd Class Robert B. Eisenberg, USN
Cryptologic Technician 2nd Class Jerry L. Goss, USN
Cryptologic Technician 1st Class Curtis L. Graves, USN
Cryptologic Technician Lawrence P. Hayden, USN
Cryptologic Technician 1st Class Warren Hersey, USN
Cryptologic Technician 3rd Class Alan Higgins, USN
Seaman Carl L. Hoar, USN
Cryptologic Technician 2nd Class Richard W. Keene, USN
Cryptologic Technician James L. Lenau, USN
Chief Cryptologic Technician Raymond E. Linn, USN
Cryptologic Technician 1st Class James M. Lupton, USN
Cryptologic Technician 3rd Class Duane R. Marggraf, USN
Cryptologic Technician David W. Marlborough, USN
Cryptologic Technician 2nd Class Anthony P. Mendle, USN
Cryptologic Technician Carl C. Nygren, USN
Lieutenant James C. Pierce, USN
Sergeant Jack Raper, U.S.M.C.
Corporal Edward Rehmayer II, U.S.M.C.
Interior Communications Electrician David N. Skolak, USN
Cryptologic Technician 1st Class John C. Smith Jr, USN
Chief Cryptologic Technician Melvin D. Smith, USN
Postal Clerk 2nd Class John C. Spicher, USN
Gunner's Mate 3rd Class Alexander N. Thompson, USN
Cryptologic Technician 3rd Class Thomas R. Thornton, USN
Cryptologic Technician 3rd Class Phillipe C. Tiedtke, USN
Lieutenant Stephen S. Toth, USN
Cryptologic Technician 1st Class Frederick J. Walton, USN