Is The New ABC "911-Docu-drama" Complete Bullpoopy?

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  • Ellyllions
    Veteran
    • Mar 2006
    • 2012

    #31
    Fuck it. I don't care what it is/what it's supposed to accomplish/or if it's even aired.

    Just like Farenheit 9/11
    By politics
    For politics

    If it's not serving the memory of those who lost their lives, it's useless to me.
    "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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    • WACF
      Crazy Ass Mofo
      • Jan 2004
      • 2920

      #32
      THe problem with making movies about real people or events you always will get the writers, producers ect bias come through on the screen.

      The CBC produced a show about Tommy Douglas(The father of medi-care in my province)...seems it was very biased towards the left.
      They made enough false dramatizations of the government in power that after some historians and family members brought it up they had the movie pulled from being shown in schools or sold.

      Comes down to you need some controversy and drama to keep people interested....when all you really want is for someone to tell the story.

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58797

        #33
        Well, isn't this something...

        Turns out the real backers of this film are a cult of dominionist, Christofascist freaks bent on history revisionism......

        The case, and all supporting evidence is presented very well over at Democratic Underground.

        Don't dismiss it on that basis until you read what they got. The people behind this project are sick, fascist cultist bastards.
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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58797

          #34
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          • ULTRAMAN VH
            Commando
            • May 2004
            • 1480

            #35
            MEDIA MATTERS
            ABC changes 9/11 show under pressure
            Includes 'very slight alterations' in Sandy Berger scene

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            Posted: September 7, 2006
            6:25 p.m. Eastern



            © 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


            Harvey Keitel plays counter-terrorism expert John O'Neill in ABC's "The Path to 9/11

            ABC has changed its "The Path to 9/11" television special, set for a commercial-free broadcast Sunday and Monday, because of pressure over the message it carries, according to a report on a television blog site.

            The network heard from a number of leading political figures, many of them Democrats, who complained of alleged inaccuracies and bias in the production, according to the report in the Los Angeles Times' CalendarLive.com website.

            The report said the five-hour docudrama also is in the middle of an information war between a left-wing organization that wants changes made in the film and conservative blogs defending the portrayal.

            An advocacy group called The Center for American Progress Action Fund is leading an effort to have ABC cancel or change the show further.


            In a statement the group said the production "presents an agenda that blames the Clinton administration" but ignores the many failures of the Bush administration.

            The movie takes what its makers have judged as intelligence and operational failures of the administrations of both Bill Clinton and President Bush and turns them into a drama portraying the prelude to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in New York, Pennsylvania and Washington, D.C.

            Fox News reported former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and Clinton aide Bruce Lindsey have written to Walt Disney Co., ABC's parent, making editing demands.

            In a New York Times report, Albright said she'd been told the film "depicts scenes that never happened, events that never took place, decisions that were never made and conversations that never occurred."

            The CalendarLive report said public records were used in the preparation, but Clinton supporters still were upset.

            A Times' source told the newspaper ABC executives and producers have toned down a scene that was generating much of the criticism.

            "That sequence has been the focus of attention," the source, who told the newspaper he didn't want to be identified, said. "These are very slight alterations."

            At issue was a scene shown last week in a screening in Washington, after which audience members complained of the film's depiction of Clinton's pursuit of Osama bin Laden.

            The Times said Richard A. Clarke, the former counterterrorism adviser, said the movie suggested the Clinton administration was in a position to capture the confessed terrorist leader in 1998 but canceled the mission.

            Reports say that scene showed Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, Clinton's national security adviser, declining to give the order to kill bin Laden.

            As WorldNetDaily reported, Berger was the focus of a Justice Department investigation for removing highly classified terrorism documents before the Sept. 11 Commission hearings that generated the report used for the television program.

            FBI agents searched Berger's home and office after he voluntarily returned some documents to the National Archives.

            Berger and his lawyer told reporters he knowingly removed handwritten notes he made while reading classified anti-terror documents at the archives by sticking them in his jacket, pants and socks. They said he also inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio.

            The complaints also allege the film infers Clinton was preoccupied with the Monica Lewinsky affair instead of focusing on bin Laden.

            The network also decided, the report said, to make the credits say the production was "in part" based on a federal 9/11 commission report.

            The network has called the production a "dramatization" of the events.

            "The events that lead to 9/11 originally sparked great debate, so it's not surprising that a movie surrounding those events has revived the debate," ABC said.

            ABC said in a statement today the final version hasn't been viewed yet, editing still is going on and criticisms are "premature and irresponsible."

            "For dramatic and narrative purposes, the movie contains fictionalized scenes, composite and representative characters and dialogue and time compression," the network said. "We hope viewers will watch the entire broadcast of the finished film before forming an opinion about it."

            Program executive producer Marc Platt reportedly told the Washington Post he worked to be "fair."

            "If individuals feel they're wrongly portrayed, that's obviously a concern. We've portrayed the essence of the truth of these events. Our intention was not in any way to be political or present a point of view," he said.



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            • Guitar Shark
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2004
              • 7579

              #36
              I thought you were banned at DU, FORD?
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              Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
              Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 58797

                #37
                Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                I thought you were banned at DU, FORD?
                I was, a long time ago. But I can still read the board. It's still a good place to find news links, such as in this case.
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                • Warham
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 14589

                  #38
                  Sandy Bergler's been altered?

                  Did they revise his key scene by showing him putting the documents into a briefcase instead of stuffing them in his trousers?

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58797

                    #39
                    I can't fucking believe this.... one of the local newspapers actually took some fucking online blogger piece of shit written by a toothless homeschooled Freeper and published it as a "legitimate review" of this propaganda shit piece.

                    These bastards have no shame.
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                    • WACF
                      Crazy Ass Mofo
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 2920

                      #40
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      I can't fucking believe this.... one of the local newspapers actually took some fucking online blogger piece of shit written by a toothless homeschooled Freeper and published it as a "legitimate review" of this propaganda shit piece.

                      These bastards have no shame.

                      Seems pretty lazy on the newspaper's behalf.

                      Blogs are a wonderful thing...but you really gotta put the filters on when reading some.

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                      • blueturk
                        Veteran
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1883

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Warham
                        I probably won't watch the 'docu-drama', even though Limbaugh praises it.
                        So you usually base your viewing habits on what Limbaugh recommends?
                        Last edited by blueturk; 09-10-2006, 02:34 PM.

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                        • DLR'sCock
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2937

                          #42
                          anyone smelll poopie?

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58797

                            #43
                            Even FAUX News is slamming this piece of shit!

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                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58797

                              #44
                              American Airlines is threatening to sue Disney/ABC
                              by John in DC - 9/11/2006 02:09:00 PM

                              An email American just sent out:

                              Mr. xxxxxx,

                              I think it is important for you to know that ABC had factual errors in
                              its dramatization, and we are looking at possible legal actions as a
                              result. According to the 9-11 Commission report, it was not American
                              Airlines, nor was it even the right airport that was depicted. In
                              reality, it was another airline, flying out of Maine. Please know this
                              was a tragic incident in our company's history and we hope you will be
                              sympathetic to our employees and our airline on this day especially.
                              Again, we are outraged by this situation, and we alerted ABC about its
                              gross error. It is very unfortunate.

                              Roger

                              Roger Frizzell
                              Vice President, Corporate Communications & Advertising
                              American Airlines
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                              • sadaist
                                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 11625

                                #45
                                Originally posted by FORD
                                Well, isn't this something...

                                Turns out the real backers of this film are a cult of dominionist, Christofascist freaks bent on history revisionism......

                                Revising history? Is that similar to stealing documents from the national archives?
                                “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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