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On the subject of New Orleans, I was just pointing out that the damage was intensified because of the topographical location of the city. Is topographical a real word?
Originally posted by scamper right Nick, that's why anyone who doesn't believe that the earths weather and temp runs in cycles is just ill-informed because science has proved it
Many people who support the Bush Administration believe the earth is only 6000 years old.
And the temp "cycles" intensified along with human activity and directly correspond with industrialization, if not the rise of organized agriculture...
And who am I or you to argue with the vast majority of scientists, well over 90%!!
Nick, I ain't talking politics. I'm talking straight science here. The earth most definitely is older than 6000 years old WAY older. And it most certainly will go through another apolcolyptic "end" for life only to go through another ice age, on to the renewal of life. These movings of crust are happening today and will continue to happen just as the continents were created by the moving crusts are miniscule on the scale of the cycles. Rivers and coastlines have been moving since they were formed, changing the way the continents are shaped.
Sure the polution speeds the processes along and puts the system off balance, but if you think only the Reps are for big business don't even get me started on NAFTA and the removal of manual labor jobs in this country.
The only political part I mentioned was that it's ridiculous to try to pin global events on a person because it's the Earth actually doing it. It's like believing that Elvis is still alive.
"If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish
Originally posted by Ellyllions ...and to a city that is being rebuilt that is going to continue to drop even further below sea level with or without global warming...
The earth has it's own cycles to complete. It takes a lot of arrogance to believe that humans can control, maintain, or even prevent those cycles from taking place.
Your common sense is titilating deliciouse. LOL! Bingo! The more we learn about the earth, the more we learn that we don't know shit. I'm tired of the Global Warming scare tactics and politicians using it to run an agenda through or just using it for fame.
They are like cowboys hurding dumb cows around. I like the asshole cows that run the other way sometimes. LOL!
Originally posted by Ellyllions It's like believing that Elvis is still alive.
Well, he posted right here in this thread, didn't he?
What Nick was referring to with the "6000 years old" comment was the biblical literalists who actually believe the saying...
From Adam to Moses, 2000 years. From Moses to Christ, 2000 years. From Christ to the Millenial Reign, 2000 years
It's a teaching in many fundie churches, and they base it all on verses that say that "a day in Heaven is like a thousand years" meaning that mankind has but 6,000 years of normal history, and the last millenium being the "day of rest" when Jesus sits on the throne in Jerusalem, Satan is bound in chains down in Hell, and there's no sin upon the earth.
The biggest flaw with that teaching, aside from the scientific evidence which proves the earth is older than that, is the fact that, even accounting for calendar discrepancies, Jesus is running a little late. Which is too bad, because there may not be a world to save much longer.
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
Originally posted by Ellyllions
[BIt takes a lot of arrogance to believe that humans can control, maintain, or even prevent those cycles from taking place. [/B]
I doesn't take much at all to believe we can totally fuck things up.
The question here is, if it can be proven that gw&friends suppressed this report, why would they do so?
It could only be because they are being bribed by polluters. Who would support that?
BTW, I'm not addressing these question directly to you Elly.
Originally posted by ODShowtime I doesn't take much at all to believe we can totally fuck things up.
The question here is, if it can be proven that gw&friends suppressed this report, why would they do so?
It could only be because they are being bribed by polluters. Who would support that?
BTW, I'm not addressing these question directly to you Elly.
Cool OD.
What I want to know is what report did he suppress? Everything I heard on the outset of this hurricane season was that we're in a cycle to be worse than last year and that this would continue for at least another 10 years or so. Bad Bad news. But here we are in the last week of September and we may have one tropical depression trying to form. So far, in realtiy, it's been way less than expected.
Now, if I'd heard (and trust me, we look out for hurricanes where we live) that it was going to be a light season and the hurricanes were popping out from everywhere, I might be more inclined to see this as a possible speculation.
On the other part about the broad stroke generalization that "most Bush supporters believe the earth is only 6,000 years old", that's about as lovely as a Bush supporter saying, "most anti-Bush folks are Godless"....don't be like them, be better.
C'mon you guys are smart. I love reading and sometimes chiming in on these political thread....don't buy into this ugly political war going on in DC. I just wish they'd stick with the real issues, the ones we're ready to face instead of trying to entice outrage with this kind of ridiculous crap. I'm really beginning to hate the media.
I think the point (just from my own common sense) is that the global warming creates more of the factors that lead to more hurricanes. Not that there will be more hurricanes. There are two many factors to say that.
There have been hurricanes this year. There's been a few in the Atlantic, and even one on the Pacific coast of Mexico, which I think is pretty rare. Maybe not.
That one was headed towards FL for awhile, but it went away. It fucked up a week of work for me.
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