No, Neo-Cons, you won't like this poll either...

[LoungeMachine]

Most in CNN Poll Say Bush Misled Public About Iraq (Update1)

By Roger Runningen

Oct. 3 (Bloomberg) -- A majority of U.S. adults say President George W. Bush has deliberately misled the public about progress in Iraq and opposition to the war matches an all- time high, according to a poll conducted for CNN.

The poll, released today, coincided with publication of the book ``State of Denial'' by Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward, which says Bush ignored warnings from military officials about the growing Iraq insurgency and made claims of success that conflicted with intelligence assessments.

In the Sept. 29-Oct. 2 poll, 58 percent said the administration misled the public about how the war is going. In addition, 57 percent said the conflict has made the U.S. less safe from terrorism, indicating that Bush's central argument in defense of his policy isn't gaining traction with voters.

``The decisions that I have made have made this country safer,'' the president said today during an appearance at a political fund-raiser in Stockton, California. Democrats counter that the Iraq conflict has distracted efforts to hunt down terrorists and -- bolstered by a recently declassified intelligence report -- that the war is fueling Muslim extremism.

Sixty-one percent said they oppose the war, up from 58 percent at the beginning of September. It matches the high mark for opposition hit in mid-August, following a spike of insurgent and sectarian violence in Iraq. Sixty-six percent said they disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq, up from 62 percent at the beginning of August.

Bush is in the middle of a three-day trip through Nevada, California, Arizona and Colorado to campaign for Republican congressional candidates. His party is trying to hold on to its majorities in the House and Senate in the Nov. 7 midterm elections, and the poll indicates potential trouble for Republicans.

Fifty-three percent of likely voters surveyed said they will cast their ballot for the Democratic candidate, while 42 percent will support the Republican candidate.

The survey showed that Bush's job-approval rating declined to 39 percent from 42 percent a week earlier. Fifty-nine percent of those surveyed said they disapprove of Bush's handling his job as president.

The telephone survey of 1,014 adults by Opinion Research Corporation has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

To contact the reporter on this story: Roger Runningen in Washington at rrunningen@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: October 3, 2006 17:56 EDT

[LoungeMachine]

Re: No, Neo-Cons, you won't like this poll either...

Originally posted by LoungeMachine



58 percent said the administration misled the public about how the war is going.


57 percent said the conflict has made the U.S. less safe from terrorism

Sixty-one percent said they oppose the war


Sixty-six percent said they disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq


Fifty-three percent of likely voters surveyed said they will cast their ballot for the Democratic candidate, while 42 percent will support the Republican candidate.

The survey showed that Bush's job-approval rating declined to 39 percent from 42 percent a week earlier.

Fifty-nine percent of those surveyed said they disapprove of Bush's handling his job as president.

[Little Texan]

It's gonna be "Black Tuesday" for Republicans in about a month from now, so get ready! Can't wait...I'll be among those helping making it happen.

Originally posted by LoungeMachine

The survey showed that Bush's job-approval rating declined to 39 percent from 42 percent a week earlier. Fifty-nine percent of those surveyed said they disapprove of Bush's handling his job as president.

I'm surprised his approval rating is THAT high! Who are the 39 percent that approve is my question?

[FORD]

Last I heard, the only states he had positive ratings in were Idaho, Wyoming, and Utah.

So his base consists of Mormons, Nazis, and Yogi Bear at this point, apparently.

[Ellyllions]

I heard that this morning on our local station.

I don't vote along party lines anyway. My registration card says what it says for my own personal reasons.

I'll be voting based on what I want to hear about what the candidate is going to do whether they be Mormons, Nazis, Yogi Bear, Demorat, Neo-Con, or undecided.

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
I don't vote along party lines anyway. My registration card says what it says for my own personal reasons.

I'll be voting based on what I want to hear about what the candidate is going to do whether they be Mormons, Nazis, Yogi Bear, Demorat, Neo-Con, or undecided.

Did you vote for Bush in the last two presidential elections?

Personal reasons? For being a republican?

[Ellyllions]

I did not vote for Bush in the first election.

I did vote for Bush in this passed election.
I didn't like the fact that John Kerry made more personal appearances in states that had high electoral college votes. I also thought John Kerry was a pussy when it came to international issues.

[DLR'sCock]

So much that I predicted years ago is coming full circle, and now the public is cathcing up as the truth reveals itself.



Anyone sense an impending terrorist attack?

I would love to be wrong. Oct Surprise?

[scamper]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
I heard that this morning on our local station.

I don't vote along party lines anyway. My registration card says what it says for my own personal reasons.

I'll be voting based on what I want to hear about what the candidate is going to do whether they be Mormons, Nazis, Yogi Bear, Demorat, Neo-Con, or undecided.

We need more people that think like you

[FORD]

Originally posted by DLR'sCock

Anyone sense an impending terrorist attack?

I would love to be wrong. Oct Surprise?

There has been mention made on this board on how well the stock market has done in recent days. What was not mentioned was exactly what was selling on the market.

One thing that has done well: Put options.

Put options, in layman's terms, is a gamble that a certain stock is going to take a huge dive soon.

Remember the put options on United and American airlines that mysteriously were purchased right before 9-11-01? And remember how quickly that story disappeared from the corporate whore media news, because it obviously implied that some "well connected" people in this country would have had prior knowledge of the terrorist attacks.

In this case, the put options are on the stock market itself. Some on the Dow, some on Nasdaq.

In other words, some "well connected people" are expecting the market to crash, and to crash HARD.

Now what could make the market crash harder than another terrorist attack?

(not to mention it would get all this bad press about pedophile congressmen and destroying 800 year old judicial standards out of the way)

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

Originally posted by FORD


Now what could make the market crash harder than another terrorist attack?

Uhhh...a very fat man landing on it from a great height?

[FORD]

Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Uhhh...a very fat man landing on it from a great height?

OK, then keep Limbaugh away from Wall Street just in case. But I don't think that's gonna be the plan.

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
I did not vote for Bush in the first election.

I did vote for Bush in this passed election.
I didn't like the fact that John Kerry made more personal appearances in states that had high electoral college votes. I also thought John Kerry was a pussy when it came to international issues.

So you are telling me:

That you chose to vote for Bush because you didn't like Kerry's campaign tour schedule?

And you chose to vote for Bush, due to Kerry being a "pussy", even after witnessing Bush's (lack of) foreign policy for 4 years.

To me this is plain ignorant. I would also say that you have blood on your hands.

[Ellyllions]

Whatever you say Demon Cunt.

Perception is a part of free-will afterall.

I saw John Kerry pandering to the wealthy in this country and basically taking the easiest route he could find to win the election. I also knew that Kerry had tried once before to "make nice" with violent people only to be publicly humiliated by those same people. Remember Nicaragua? With some, "making nice" is a joke.

The other side of this Kerry issue, is that I didn't like the way his camp kept talking about how the Bush camp was "selling fear" because that's exactly what Kerry's camp was doing. While he was telling us that Bush wanted us afraid not to vote him back into office, Kerry was implying that we should be afraid of Bush in a second term. It's the same argument.

The War in Iraq was young at the time. And at that time, I wasn't as aware of the Military Generals role in war, or how they'd play it out. I had hope that Bush could finish what he started.

Hope is something very lacking with you it seems. And you also seem to enjoy judging people which comes across to me as insecurity. But you should know that I carry no fault for what's happened. I, like the rest who voted for Bush, did what we thought was best at the time. And if people don't stop brow-beating us, you'll see it happen again. You can't push guilt and shame on folks and expect them to be receptive to it...they'll try to prove you wrong. In my mind, as long as Democrats sling mud out of one side of their mouths and then tell us how humanitarian they are out of the other, they'll continue to struggle for some valid numbers in our government.

You can't expect one side of the aisle to change and be biligerant to change yourself. If it's not give and take then what we're dealing with in our country right now, will stay exactly as it is.

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
Whtever you say Demon Cunt.

Perception is a part of free-will afterall.

Yes! Let's discuss perception.

I saw John Kerry pandering to the wealthy in this country and basically taking the easiest route he could find to win the election. I also knew that Kerry
had tried once before to "make nice" with violent people only to be publicly humiliated by those same people. Remember Nicaragua? With some, "making nice" is a joke.

The other side of this Kerry issue, is that I didn't like the way his camp kept talking about how the Bush camp was "selling fear" because that's exactly what Kerry's camp was doing. While he was telling us that Bush wanted us afraid not to vote him back into
office, Kerry was implying that we should be afraid of Bush in a second term. It's the same argument.

Again, you are using Kerry's behaviour to justify your vote for Bush. While completely ignoring Bush's own pandering (“This is an impressive crowd -- the haves and the have mores. Some people call you the elite -- I call you my base.” -- George W. Bush)

Remember the colored terror alerts? Remember duct tape and plastic? That is what Kerry meant when he was talking about fear.

So, how's that second Bush term going? Still proud of your vote? How many Americans, and human beings for that matter, have been slaughtered since YOU last voted for Bush and his policies. Several Americans (about 19 now) have been killed this week alone. You voted for this.

The War in Iraq was young at the time. And at that time, I wasn't as aware of the Military Generals role in war, or how they'd play it out. I had hope that Bush could finish what he started.

Hope is something very lacking with you it seems. And you also seem to enjoy judging people which comes across to me as insecurity. But you should know that I carry no fault for what's happened. I, like the rest who voted for Bush, did what we thought was best at the time. And if people don't stop brow-beating us, you'll see it happen again. You can't push guilt and shame on folks and expect them to be receptive to
it...they'll try to prove you wrong. In my mind, as long as Democrats sling mud out of one side of their mouths and then tell us how humanitarian they are out of the other, they'll continue to struggle for some valid numbers in our government.

"Those who do not learn from the past are condemned to repeat it." War is war. It's death, destruction, and suffering. You voted for this.

It seems that many of you who "did what we thought was best at the time" ignored the constant failures displayed by the Bush Administration, refused to learn from the past and rely on "hope."

I HOPE that the American families that have lost members in this war (that you voted for) will somehow find comfort. I HOPE that the families in Baghdad will soon have water, electricity and other infrastructure that we destroyed during the illegal invasion.

While it was obvious to many Americans that this war was a hole that will only get deeper- you "hoped" that "Bush could finish what he started." Assuming, of course, that Bush wanted to even "finish what he started" rather than allow his biggest contributors to reap profits from the chaos. Have you looked to see what the Halliburton stock price has done since the start of the war?

Don't "perceive" the fact that I challenge people like you and hold people like you responsible for your actions and statements as "insecurity." I would "hope" that you would learn to appreciate a deeper understanding of our political system and the serious responsibility and privilege that is democracy. Most importantly using your vote to choose who you want as representation rather than voting against who you don't.

Your statements suggest that much of your motivation for voting for Bush was to vote against a "pussy" like Kerry.

You can't expect one side of the aisle to change and be biligerant to change yourself. If it's not give and take then what we're dealing with in our country right now, will stay exactly as it is.

For a Bush supporter to call for "give and take" right now is downright ridiculous. Bush's policies (which you watched for four years and voted for) are anything but "give and take"!

This is life and death. People are dying in horrible ways every day in Iraq because of the chaos that we introduced to that country.