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  • DrMaddVibe
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2004
    • 6686

    Clinton urges Dems to question criticism

    By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer
    Wed Oct 18, 6:25 PM ET



    Former President Clinton bemoaned ideologues who describe opponents as "running for office on his or her way to hell" and urged Democrats not to shy from fighting back.

    Clinton, criticizing Republicans weeks before the midterm elections, told an audience at Georgetown University on Wednesday that intellectual debate should trump partisan rancor and either-or choices are false.

    "Most of us long for politics where we have genuine arguments, vigorous disagreements but we don't claim to have the whole truth and we don't demonize our opponents and we work for what's best for the American people," he said.

    Clinton, whose wife Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., is eyeing a 2008 White House run, spoke at his alma mater to mark the 15th anniversary of his series of speeches there as a then-fledgling presidential candidate. The former president gave notice that Democrats would not be passive victims of attacks.

    "This is a contact sport, politics," he said. "You can't complain about being attacked. It's like Yao Ming complaining about being fouled playing basketball."

    Clinton said he doesn't see Democrats shying from the debate.

    "It's not that we want a bland, mushy, meaningless politics," he said. "We like our debate. ... We understand that campaigns will be heated and only one side can win. But we want it to be connected somehow to real lives and real people, to aspirations of ordinary Americans to the future of our children and our grandchildren."

    Recently, the former president engaged in a testy exchange with Fox News over his administration's record on terrorism.

    During remarks that were framed as a discussion of the common good, Clinton decried personal attacks against candidates for perceived lack of faith.

    "It's not about who represents the religious truth and who is basically running for office on his or her way to hell," Clinton said.

    Clinton also argued that the GOP has allowed its conservative element to drown out moderate voices.

    "The ideological, right-wing element of the Republican Party has been building strength, partly in reaction to things that happened 40 years ago — Barry Goldwater's defeat, the excess of the '60s, Ronald Reagan's election" he said. "But this is the first time on a consistent basis, the most conservative, the most ideological wing of the Republican Party has had both the executive and legislative branches with a very distinct governing philosophy and very distinct political philosophy."

    He said the United States' effort to develop new weapons and cut taxes undercut the moral arguments.

    "They favor unilateralism whenever possible and cooperation when it is inevitable," Clinton said without specifically mentioning members of the Bush administration.

    "The problem with ideology is, if you've got an ideology, you've already got your mind made up. You know all the answers and that makes evidence irrelevant and arguments a waste of time. You tend to govern by assertion and attacks."

    In response, Tracey Schmitt, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee, said, "It's not surprising to hear these attacks from a man widely recognized for repeatedly playing the blame game to cover his own mistakes."

    Clinton spoke at an event sponsored by the Center for American Progress, a Democratic group run by his former chief of staff, John Podesta.







    Maybe he want's civil debate like what he shared with Wallace...a card carrying menber of his OWN party!!!

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    Funny, I never thought of politics as a sport.
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  • Ellyllions
    Veteran
    • Mar 2006
    • 2012

    #2
    I'm tired of the Clinton's and of the Bush's.

    And it's really affecting my voting choices. They're both family's of figureheads that want nothing more than a fucking camera in their faces.

    Hopefully there will never be another Clinton, nor another Bush in the Oval office.
    "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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    • DrMaddVibe
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Jan 2004
      • 6686

      #3
      We can only hope.
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      • LoungeMachine
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jul 2004
        • 32576

        #4
        Well, no...

        You can vote too.....

        Originally posted by Kristy
        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
        Originally posted by cadaverdog
        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49565

          #5
          Re: Clinton urges Dems to question criticism

          Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
          ...

          Funny, I never thought of politics as a sport. [/B]
          LOL Commentary from the masterdebater and one that has never done anything but spew his "cut-and-run" name calling like a true mindless, droning fuckwit...

          It's funny that the Republicans are the ones mostly avoiding any real debates...

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          • Guitar Shark
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7579

            #6
            Maddvibe, what was your point in posting this article?
            ROTH ARMY MILITIA


            Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
            Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49565

              #7
              I think maybe it was something to the affect of asking Clinton why he was solely responsible for 9/11 (even though he hadn't been President for nine months) somehow make Democrat angry!

              Yeah, I'm waiting for the Fox "monkey" to ask the same question to Bush. It's funny that when ever anyone even dances around that question to Bush, like Wolf Blitzer shortly before that Fox "ambush interview" took place. Blitzer stated to Bush that he was president for almost a year before 9/11, and Bush bristled and quickly got nappy and "corrected" him by informing Wolf that he was only pResident for only "six months before?" Whaaa?

              Here's a "real" fake-journalist on the matter...

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              • DrMaddVibe
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2004
                • 6686

                #8
                Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                Maddvibe, what was your point in posting this article?

                To show the hypocrisy of a person that can't leave the limelight without sucking all of the oxygen out of yet another headline!
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                • Guitar Shark
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7579

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
                  To show the hypocrisy of a person that can't leave the limelight without sucking all of the oxygen out of yet another headline!
                  Don't be so hard on yourself.
                  ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                  Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                  Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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