Democrats Take House AND Senate

[redfire]

You guys talk about Conservatives not hanging with you libs, but none of you answer my questions, or respond to what I say.

And, again, look at what I've said before you try to paint me as a Neo-Conservative. Ford said earlier that Brad Carson, the Dem that ran in the Senate against Tom Coburn, was more right than me.

If you don't want to bother to do research on people and how they feel about social and economic issues, you're just as bad as the disciples of O'Reilly who only know the talking points memo.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by redfire
Excuse me? Do you know who the fuck I am?

No.

Your whopping post count leads me to believe you came by for a quickie after the elections.

So sorry I took your post at face value, and didn't bother to search your post history first

Who the fuck are you again? :D

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by redfire




If you don't want to bother to do research on people

You're a 24 year old from Oklahoma.

That's all the info I need.

Thanks.

[redfire]

For a quick history lesson, I was one of the first 20 registered on the original Army board. Circa Dec 2000, I left after the failed reunion with Dave (but during the time before that I was a mod at Links, and here)... since I was graduating high school. And then I would periodically come back but never on a long time basis, most notably when the Pleasure Dump opened. I felt responsible for giving Vince many problems, due to my many aliases like Dave_can_drive55, and WFT_Im_OnFire.

Long story short, Army board crashes, and when it comes back up, I register my name just so someone else doesn't. And periodically I would check in and maybe drop a post in the Eat Us and Smile thread.

Sorry that I expected you to actually read threads that we were both posting in for the past week. I guess I thought people still actually read all the posts instead of just the conversations they were having one on one.

Here's you a nice quick and concise run down of my political stances. As a Democrat from Oklahoma with a degree in Government, Theology and History from a Conservative Private Christian University, I think abortion (even partial-birth) is a last resort if a woman is in danger, or rape, or incest. I say that because in case people don't know... babies are made by sex (or male semen being inserted someway into a woman's egg). Therefore, dont be suprised if you have get pregnant because you had sex.

For gay rights, I think people that live a homosexual lifestyle should be afford rights, like tax purposes, the passing on of property in case of death. But marriage wasn't created by the US Government, our Gov adopted a Christian idea of marriage that was common place in the 18th century and prior. So, marriage no. Because God made it and if I had to cast the deciding vote on changing marriage to be defined by two people, I wouldn't. Cause God defined it, and if I changed it, it would be like me telling God that I'm smarter than him and I know better than He does. Civil Unions, fine. But as far as that word marriage goes, no.

Should English be the national language? No, because I don't want the government telling me what to do. If you give them an inch, eventually they'll take a mile.

Does this make me liberal or moderate? No. I can convince others that this is the proper position accoring to the Bible, and tradition. But most Conservatives have bought into the Karl Rove strategy, and they think the Rep party is a conservative party. But they're not. And the Dem party isn't a liberal party. Some Rep claim to be conservative, and some Dems claim to be liberals. But neither parties offers a common ground for every one that is registered to that party except on taxes. So no party aligns itsself in lock step with an ideology.

In closing, the reason why I left was because I got tired of talking about the same fucking issues. Mind you, this forum wasn't here yet. And you can only tell someone a song-bysong review of every single Van Halen album two, three times at a max. And I was tired of that. Again, maybe just actually read all the posts going on in a thread. You are the mod for this forum are you not? Isn't that kinda what you're for?

[redfire]

And due to my nature of writing dissertation's, I don't spell check.

I ask only that people not be close minded, and in that maybe I could be considered a lib. But anymore, everyone is close minded.

(And I'm going to take my LSAT soon)

[Guitar Shark]

redfire is old school.

[FORD]

Yep, he's old school, an original member of EUAS, and would probably be a liberal if he had been born in any other state.

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by redfire
What areas are they? I mean, are they in the Va Beach area, or Northern Va or what?

isle of wight county and james city county. sorta tidewater-esque.

definitely not the major population areas.

[redfire]

Originally posted by FORD
Yep, he's old school, an original member of EUAS, and would probably be a liberal if he had been born in any other state.

Haha, I don't know about that man. I suppose it all depends on a persons definition of both conservative and liberal. I like to think of myself as someone who sees both sides of the issue. And I try to encourage others that way. No one person has all their shit together and is able to know what the best course of action should be in every situation. But if you get 100, or 300+ people together, your chances of findind the person who should know the best course of action increases. And it's that person's job to argue and convince everyone else that he or she is correct.

This might sound bad, but I don't give a fuck about the rest of the world. We're not the world's police. We shouldn't have people in Iraq right now. We're the third party in a religious war. That's it. For their to be peace, the sunni and shiites needs to fucking stop killing each other. Or let them do it till they're all dead, and then start from scratch. But I also know that a lot of people don't want us to leave because we're too proud. Proud that men and women went over there and kick out a madman, and we haven't finished the fight. And I can see why some would say, if we pull everyone out, that would be embarassing to both the country and maybe a lot of troops. But lets weigh the options: Embarassment or death. Personally, I'd take embarassment.

That's why you can't look at a person's party or even ideology and say "well I'm gonna vote this way because they said their a conservative or a liberal." You have listen to them and decide if they're a glory or power hound, or if they know as a elected official they're suppose to be a SERVANT.

Is that wishful thinking, to a degree. But I think it's my job to educate people in knowing this. Liberal, conservative, whatever. I'm for doing what's best for the Nation, not my party, not my ideology, not the rest of the world, but for the United States.

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by redfire


(And I'm going to take my LSAT soon)

good GOD! not another one!!...

[Guitar Shark]

Good to see you in here red... it's rare that we see lengthy, reasoned posts in this forum.

[redfire]

Originally posted by knuckleboner
isle of wight county and james city county. sorta tidewater-esque.

definitely not the major population areas.

Ok, I was paid to work in the Gov election last year. That was awful. But, I know where Isle of Wight and James City county are. I worked a lot in James City. He wouldn't be able to make up the votes unless he has takes like a 90% right?

[redfire]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Good to see you in here red... it's rare that we see lengthy, reasoned posts in this forum.

I think that's why I left in the first place, lol. Except I was using reason to explain why David was better than Sam, and how Sam and Ed wouldn't last, but Dave and Ed could. Part of that has been proven.

Originally posted by knuckleboner
good GOD! not another one!!...

You wouldn't believe me if I told you the other job I'm lined up for. But it's not for certain, whereas law school would be more certain. I actually want to be just a public defender. I was talking with a lawyer, from a nice law firm, and he said the public defenders (in OK) are often people that didn't have the best education, or the best in their class, and that's why they weren't working at law firms. And I thought that was messed up.

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by redfire
Ok, I was paid to work in the Gov election last year. That was awful. But, I know where Isle of Wight and James City county are. I worked a lot in James City. He wouldn't be able to make up the votes unless he has takes like a 90% right?

oh, there's no chance he makes up anywhere close to enough in those precincts.

and to be honest, when the recount comes (and it will), he won't be able to make up enough there, either.


and yeah, public defenders are usually paid pretty low. that's often why a lot of talent goes elsewhere. and it's tough work; you don't get a lot of time or resources to dedicate to the cases.

not trying to discourage, though. it's noble, necessary work.


though, i don't know, shark, can we let another lawyer in the club?...

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by jacksmar
Even a near death party- comie librats- will have a moment before their death. This is it.

False.

What happened is that the bullshit President you still support is finally being repudiated by the electorate.

"comie librats"

what a moron.