Thank You America!

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Which is ususally what you'd expect to hear from the Loser

Ha ha!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by redfire
It's true that the chimpanzee genome is about 95% identical to the human genome. But the major difference between the two genomes is chromosome 2. Chromosome 2 is the second largest human chromosome, spanning more than 237 million base pairs.... 237 million seems like a lot to me. This coming from my Prentice Hall biology textbook.

So you're saying that you accept science when you can spin it for your arguments? And yes, the Chromosomes are obviously different, but the relation is also obviously there.

As for evolution, am I really just suppose to take your word on this?

No. You're supposed to listen and read that most scientists have essentially stopped debating at functions such as schoolboard meetings, because idiot "Intelligent Designers" have masked creationism mythology with pseudo-science, and have attempted to engage in base and Sophist courtroom style theatrical arguments where this kind of behavior has no place. In short, they engage in cherrypicking of the facts.

Why should I just accpet what you've said. Freaking read a text book. And read all the thoughts on evolution, and all the concessions on where it's weak, and all the theories that account for these weaknesses. There are so ####### many excuse to explain the theory of evolution.

All I'm saying is it takes faith for me to believe that all the theories on evolution, and the Big Bang, that every single question to disprove those theories is explained with another hypothetical theory. Either way, we don't know for 100% certain.

Is man perfect? To me, no. There's plenty of evidence to support that. And when you deal with an issue like the origin of everything, you're asking a flawed man to reason and explain. And he can't. That's the bottom line to me.

Everyone that wants to rip Intelligent Design, fine. Go ahead, but go reseach, just buy a ####### textbook, and read all the issues behind evolution. The reasons why it's a possiblity and the arguments against it (from science), and then evolutions response to those arguments. And I think you will see that it's not as bulletproof as some make it.

This is an argument of semantics one could apply to anything. You could sit outside and smoke pot all night and speculate if the Earth is just a dingleberry on God's ass, and call that "faith." But at the end of the day, it comes down to scholarship and specialty. And many "Intelligent Designers" are clearly intellectual frauds promoting religion over scientific thought. They have clearly applied a skepticism" to Evolution that they clearly refuse to apply to their own pseudoscience, or religious belief for that matter. And these include gross fabrications.

BTW, how many scientific conferences on "ID" are there? How many peer-reviewed papers?

[scamper]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Which is ususally what you'd expect to hear from the Loser :D

Which is what you hear from extremist. People like you are the problem, with your us against them mentality. You don't give a shit about the country as long as your party wins. Soooo Sad, show some tolerance.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by scamper
Which is what you hear from extremist. People like you are the problem, with your us against them mentality. You don't give a shit about the country as long as your party wins. Soooo Sad, show some tolerance.

LMAO

Yeah, the Republicans are the party of tolerance

And your "you don't give a shit" rant is fucking laughable.

I don't care WHO is in "power", mensa.....

So long as they don't invade, occupy, kill, torture, and steal IN MY NAME.

I also don't want my government spying on ME without a warrant and probable cause.

I also believe in THE BILL OF RIGHTS, and the right of Habeus Corpus.

So know what the fuck you're talking about Skippy.


Idiot.

edit for typo

[Warham]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I also don't want my government spying on ME without a warrant and probably cause.

Don't worry. They've got better things to do.

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
And BTW, I am some sort of "believer;" yet I find no contradiction between a God and science, or Evolution. Why do you think Catholics co-opted science into their belief system? This simply gave them a bit more credibility...

Catholics have co-opted a lot of things into their faith they shouldn't have over the last two-thousand years.

[Warham]

Originally posted by DEMON CUNT

Now notice the phony "but...but...but I voted for one Democrat and stuff. I did...I did!" bullshit.

Bitch please!

Now that the stench of defeat hits his party Warhead denies their acquaintance three times before the cock crowed.

Nice try! You ain't fooling us at all!

I know, you can't handle it when people around here split their ticket. I still consider myself a conservative Republican and always will, so I'm not sure what I'm denying, fool.

Do you need a blanket to go along with that bottle, Monkey?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Warham
Don't worry. They've got better things to do.

Then why go around the FISA courts, and the need for the signing statements?

Or are they just after FORD at this point?

[Warham]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
It has a shitload to do with it, you idiot! We live in 2006. Science is the future.

I just can't believe how stupid so many people are.

Anyone see that South Park last night? The time Child rocks!

No, it has nothing to do with it.

Invoking Bush's belief system has nothing to do with how well he governs, or anybody else for that matter.

[Warham]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Then why go around the FISA courts, and the need for the signing statements?

Or are they just after FORD at this point?

Yep, the Feds watch this forum everyday, making sure they read up on FORD's latest rants.

[scamper]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
LMAO

Yeah, the Republicans are the party of tolerance

And your "you don't give a shit" rant is fucking laughable.

I don't care WHO is in "power", mensa.....

So long as they don't invade, occupy, kill, torture, and steal IN MY NAME.

I also don't want my government spying on ME without a warrant and probable cause.

I also believe in THE BILL OF RIGHTS, and the right of Habeus Corpus.

So know what the fuck you're talking about Skippy.


Idiot.

edit for typo

Yeah you sound tolerant

[Warham]

Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
The legislation that Bush really wanted did indeed go through. The Patriot Act is a perfect example of this.

Well, gee, Monkey, for Bush's Patriot Act legislation to go through, both parties had to vote to get it to pass, right?

So the Democrats are just like the Republicans, right?

So who lost on Election Day?

[Warham]

Patriot Act

Senate Vote:

Oct 25, 2001

Yeas: 98
Neas: 1

House Vote:

Oct 24, 2001

Yeas: 357
Neas: 66

[redfire]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
So you're saying that you accept science when you can spin it for your arguments? And yes, the Chromosomes are obviously different, but the relation is also obviously there.

No, I don't remember saying that, and I don't even think you can imply that. I said I've seen what science has to offer to explain the formation of the world and it's not as matter of fact as a lot of people make. 237 million seems to be quite a bit to just say the relation is there.

No. You're supposed to listen and read that most scientists have essentially stopped debating at functions such as schoolboard meetings, because idiot "Intelligent Designers" have masked creationism mythology with pseudo-science, and have attempted to engage in base and Sophist courtroom style theatrical arguments where this kind of behavior has no place. In short, they engage in cherrypicking of the facts.

And I have listened and read. I've done that, but have you? Look, I don't have a problem with evolution or the Big Bang being taught, it should be. But the fact is, it's not without it's own problems, and I would like to see that the professor's would also teach the scientific arguments against it. I was, and I appreciated it. Then I did my own studies on it, and admittedly had a hard time keeping track of all the rebuttles from evolution. By the way, can you actually tell me what Sophistry is? I just want to make sure you're not repeating an argument from someone else. Now, as for the rest of Christianity... even just people of a religious faith that believe God created everything, I can't speak for them. But for you to say I'm cherry picking facts, is useless because the other side does it too, ie not stating the scientific arguments for many aspects of evolution.

This is an argument of semantics one could apply to anything. You could sit outside and smoke pot all night and speculate if the Earth is just a dingleberry on God's ass, and call that "faith." But at the end of the day, it comes down to scholarship and specialty. And many "Intelligent Designers" are clearly intellectual frauds promoting religion over scientific thought. They have clearly applied a skepticism" to Evolution that they clearly refuse to apply to their own pseudoscience, or religious belief for that matter. And these include gross fabrications.

BTW, how many scientific conferences on "ID" are there? How many peer-reviewed papers?

Prolly none, but the Bible is not a text for explaining the mysteries of the origin of the universe, otherwise it might spend a little bit more talking about that. Rather, it's a text that is a history on God's relationship with mankind and how one can be reconciled to the LORD. How many scientific conferences on "God's salvation to mankind" are there? How many peer-reviewed papers?

The end of the matter is this, does evolution, scientifically, have holes? If it does, you can rail against me for believing YHWH created the word (ironically that name means He causes to be), but it's no different from my faith, that according to science has holes.

[LoungeMachine]

Question:

Why would a "God' create BILLIONS of galaxies......

And then only create intelligent life on ONE planet?

Just thought I'd throw that in, as it seems to stump Creationistic Bible Thumpers worldwide.