Democrat (Rep. Charles Rangel wants) to reinstate military draft

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  • sadaist
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jul 2004
    • 11625

    Democrat (Rep. Charles Rangel wants) to reinstate military draft

    And you thought it would be the Republicans who would do it.

    Senior Democrat renews call for military draft

    Sun Nov 19, 12:40 PM ET

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An influential Democratic lawmaker on Sunday called for reinstatement of the draft as a way to boost U.S. troop levels and draw a broader section of the population into the military or public service.

    U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel (news, bio, voting record), the incoming chairman of the House of Representatives' tax-writing committee, said he would introduce legislation to reinstate the draft as soon as the new, Democratic-controlled Congress convenes in January.

    Asked on CBS' "Face the Nation" if he was still serious about the proposal for a universal draft he raised a couple of years ago, he said, "You bet your life. Underscore serious."

    "If we're going to challenge
    Iran and challenge
    North Korea and then, as some people have asked, to send more troops to
    Iraq, we can't do that without a draft," he said.

    Rangel, who opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq, also said he did not think the United States would have invaded Iraq if the children of members of Congress were sent to fight. He has said the U.S. fighting force is comprised disproportionately of people from low-income families and minorities.

    "I don't see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft. I think to do so is hypocritical," he said.

    The New York Democrat had introduced legislation to reinstate the draft in January 2003 before the Iraq invasion. The
    Pentagon has said the all-volunteer army is working well and there is no need for a draft, and the idea had no traction in the Republican-led Congress.

    Democrats gained control of both the House and Senate for the first time in 12 years in the November 7 election, and a wholesale change in the leadership of Congress is to be made in January. Rangel is to head the House Ways and Means Committee, which is charged with U.S. tax and trade legislation.

    The draft was in place from 1948 to 1973, when the United States converted to an all-volunteer army. But almost all men living in the United States - including most male noncitizens - are required to register with the Selective Service upon reaching 18, and federal benefits, including financial aid for college studies, are contingent on registration.

    Rangel said his legislation on the draft would also offer the alternative of a couple of years of public service with educational benefits.

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  • Va Beach VH Fan
    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
    • Dec 2003
    • 17913

    #2
    Sounds good to me....

    Those calls for military action in Iran and North Korea, and continued action in Iraq will go down quickly when it's their sons and daughters going there to do the fighting....
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    • LoungeMachine
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jul 2004
      • 32576

      #3
      As oppsed to the current BACK DOOR DRAFT?

      Where men and women with lives, families, careers, roots, and plans, having ALREADY SERVED THEIR SERVICE are getting called back without a sayso????????????????????????????????

      Which is more fair.

      You guys started this war, and now America wants US to finish it.

      Since you failed.
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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59579

        #4
        Tell Chimpy he can have his war with Iran if Jenna & Tonic are the first ones on the front line. And tell Hillary that Chelsea will be number # 3 if she votes for the shit.
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        • Nitro Express
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          • Aug 2004
          • 32942

          #5
          They will just use the family money to relocate. Rich kids can always dodge the draft.
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32942

            #6
            This isn't Israel so no way would people stand for women being drafted. They never were before in the US. Good luck getting a two sex draft passed.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 59579

              #7
              Well, since Likud is behind the Iran bullshit anyway, then why not do the draft like they do it?

              Mary Cheney in combat? Why the Hell not?
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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49565

                #8
                It's not "Democrats," it a singular Democrat in Charles Rangel that wants to reinstate the draft. His bill was voted on by the Republican congress shortly before the Iraq War to show that we really didn't need that many troops to fight the war...

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                • Fairwrning
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 11371

                  #9
                  Is this the same guy that said "who wants to live in Mississippi"???

                  I bet he has no kids...

                  I think we should send convicts over...

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 59579

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fairwrning


                    I bet he has no kids...
                    Just for the record.....


                    Congressman Rangel served in the U.S. Army from 1948-52, during which time he fought in Korea and was awarded the Purple Heart and Bronze Star. Congressman Rangel has authored several pieces of legislation to benefit minority and women veterans, including a successful bill that established the Office of Minority Affairs Within the Department of Veterans Affairs.

                    {snip}

                    Congressman Rangel lives in Harlem with his wife Alma, who is a founding member of the Congressional Black Caucus Spouses and participates in many civic and community organizations. Congressman and Mrs. Rangel have two children.
                    From his official bio page:
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                    • sadaist
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                      • Jul 2004
                      • 11625

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                      It's not "Democrats," it a singular Democrat in Charles Rangel that wants to reinstate the draft.
                      Maybe you should change the thread title....

                      nevermind


                      One Democrat does not represent all Democrats? That's fine. Just make sure you apply that same thinking to the Republicans.
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                      • FORD
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 59579

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sadaist
                        Maybe you should change the thread title....

                        nevermind


                        One Democrat does not represent all Democrats? That's fine. Just make sure you apply that same thinking to the Republicans.
                        But this one Democrat, a combat veteran of the Korean war, has more of an understanding of war than the entire chickenhawk BCE cabinet combined.
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                        • Fairwrning
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11371

                          #13
                          I just see this as somewhat "petty" if you will..although I see he proposed this before we went into Iraq...
                          What ages were his kids..and how old are they now?

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                          • Fairwrning
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11371

                            #14
                            I pretty much feel we should set a date and leave..no matter if its a year from now or 10..within 1 year of us leaving..Iraq will go right back to what it was..

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49565

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sadaist
                              Maybe you should change the thread title....

                              nevermind


                              One Democrat does not represent all Democrats? That's fine. Just make sure you apply that same thinking to the Republicans.
                              Which Republicans didn't initially agree with the War? Lincoln Chafee?

                              And no genius, one Democrat (who is not in any leadership capacity in the House) does not represent all Democrats. This is not a official "platform" position is it?!

                              Feel free to prove otherwise...

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