Dangling Saddam Photos at Gitmo

[pflo]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
Oh god, yeah it wasn't the Soviet's fault at all.

Another moronic statement by the angry canadian.

Wasnt responding to you, ATOMIC JERK. NOW you may fuck off.

[pflo]

Originally posted by scamper
Why don't you toss out a fact or two instead of trashing our country? Jealousy is a unattractive trait.

Yeah, and Im really trying to pick you up. The extent of my jealousy towards the states starts and ends with the weather.I already tossed out facts, why dont you fuckin READ beyond the last post?? Guantanamo is in CUBA. Did you know that Cuba is not one of the states? Its true. Wanna 'nother lesson in geography? Neither is Iraq! Wow, amazing stuff, huh? Two FACTS for ya.

[pflo]

Originally posted by hideyoursheep
"Wetbacks in the southwest...." Shows how much you actually KNOW about shit Pierre.I'm bored with your ignorant rants about all things US. None of which you can elaborate on. Just blast us without being informed.

So bored with me you had to type up a response? And you call me Pierre? Yeah, REAL neutral. Youre just as bad. I dont speak a lick of french. If "wetback" offends you, you are a "stuck in the nineties PC everthing offend no one" type dude. For chrissakes, were called "frostbacks" and "cheeseheads"! I think its funny! Who gives a fuck? Words are just words. Sop being so sensitive about benign bullshit. YES, I like most americans Ive met, I even married one, AND shes partly Mexican. NO I do not like your governments foriegn policy, and If my government pulls shit like that, i would accept criticism from other nationals, hell yes! Its not a personal attack on you.

[Nitro Express]

I thought a cheesehead was a person from Wisconsin.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by pflo
Oh, fuck off....we have more troops in Afghanistan than anyone.Why?

Because they make damn good targets for our fighter bombers.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by pflo
Yeah, and Im really trying to pick you up. The extent of my jealousy towards the states starts and ends with the weather.I already tossed out facts, why dont you fuckin READ beyond the last post?? Guantanamo is in CUBA. Did you know that Cuba is not one of the states? Its true.

True enough, but the military base is ours. Just like we have bases in Germany, Korea, etc.

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by pflo
NO I do not like your governments foriegn policy, and If my government pulls shit like that, i would accept criticism from other nationals, hell yes! Its not a personal attack on you.

My skin is too thick to consider it personal.

My point is illegals are EVERYWHERE-it hasn't been limited to the southwest;I guess you didn't know,did you?That's my point.

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
True enough, but the military base is ours. Just like we have bases in Germany, Korea, etc.

The Canadians have bases in other countries,too.Peeflow probably "forgot".

[LoungeMachine]

When a Canadian dies, does the exchange rate apply?

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by pflo
Wasnt responding to you, ATOMIC JERK. NOW you may fuck off.

I don't give a shit who you were responding to. You're not gonna bad mouth the United States of America in front of me and get away with it. Especially by saying that the problems in Afghanistan before the taliban were the US's fault. It's just ridiculous bullshit. You can't give one fact to support it.

You're ignorant. I'm gonna keep calling you out until you realize that.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by pflo
Cuba is not one of the states? Its true. Wanna 'nother lesson in geography? Neither is Iraq! Wow, amazing stuff, huh? Two FACTS for ya.

wow, I was wrong. you are pretty smart.

[pflo]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
I don't give a shit who you were responding to. You're not gonna bad mouth the United States of America in front of me and get away with it. Especially by saying that the problems in Afghanistan before the taliban were the US's fault. It's just ridiculous bullshit. You can't give one fact to support it.

You're ignorant. I'm gonna keep calling you out until you realize that.

Since youre too lazy to look shit up yourself-U.S. subversion

In June of 1975, fundamentalists attempted to overthrow the PDPA government. They started the insurgent movement in the Panjshir valley, some 100 kilometers north of Kabul, and in a number of other provinces of the country. However, government forces easily suppressed the insurgency and a sizable portion of the insurgents defected and settled in Pakistan where they had total freedom of action. In May 1978, the insurgents found their first base in Pakistan to train armed bands for combat in Afghanistan. Afterwards, similar centers were found in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt.

Numerous violations by US-backed Pakistan were reported. These included political activities and propaganda hostile to the government of Afghanistan taking place in Pakistan, border crossings of men and material from Pakistan to Afghanistan, cross-border firings, acts of sabotage, rocket attacks on major urban centres, violations of Afghan airspace by Pakistani aircraft, the continued presence in Pakistan of training camps and arms depots for Afghan insurgent groups, and direct involvement by Pakistani military personnel inside Afghanistan, as well as restrictions placed on refugees who wished to return to Afghanistan.

The former director of the CIA and current Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs "From the Shadows", that American intelligence services began to aid the opposing factions in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet deployment. On July 3, 1979, US President Jimmy Carter signed a directive authorizing the CIA to conduct covert propaganda operations against the revolutionary regime.

Carter advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski stated "According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise." Brzezinski himself played a fundamental role in crafting U.S. policy, which, unbeknownst even to the Mujahideen, was part of a larger strategy "to induce a Soviet military intervention." In a 1998 interview with Le Nouvel Observateur, Brzezinski recalled proudly:

"That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Soviets into the Afghan trap..." [...]"The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the Soviet Union its Vietnam War."

[edit] Theres more, but i aint your teacher, Ignoramus.Look your own shit up. I will badmouth any fuckin country I please, including my own, if need be, and I WILL get away with it, its a right. Do you still have those down there?

[hideyoursheep]

The words "Taliban" and "Al-Qaida" are nowhere to be found,so don't try to blame tUS for assisting the Mujahadeen vs. the soviets. It was tUS forces remaining in Saudi Arabia after the Gulf War that got Bin-Laden's panties in a bunch.They ASKED for our help,and they paid for it.This drove Bin-Laden up the fuckin wall.
And the rest is history.

[pflo]

ugghh!! Lets stay focused here...Showtime said I provided NO proof that the US had a hand in messing up Afghanistan BEFORE all this. Back in the 70's. THEY DID, whether he can face that fact is up to him.My last post is my response to that. Not talking about Al qaeda, not talking about taliban,not talking about 9/11. Theres my proof. Yes, I know about the Saudis and bin laden, thats not what im talking about..Showtime is a jingoist, that is, he thinks his country can do no wrong. Hes obviously wrong there.The US was playing games with the USSR, and doing it using Afghanistan as the bait. The result is was an escalation in tribal conflicts that still exists. The taliban and later binladen used this insatbility to find a safe haven .But thats not the issue. If the USSR had moved into Mexico and supplied the Mexicans with armaments, what do you think the states would do? Thats excactly what the US did in Afghanistan (a soviet neighbour, like Mexico is to you), and the USSR responded as expected. Once again , US hypocrysy.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by pflo
Theres more, but i aint your teacher, Ignoramus.Look your own shit up. I will badmouth any fuckin country I please, including my own, if need be, and I WILL get away with it, its a right. Do you still have those down there?

Of course you can get away with it. Good for you. I'm just gonna point out all the stupid shit you type.

God you're a moron.