US Arrests Iraqi Shia Deputy Minister

[Nickdfresh]

Dupe.

[pflo]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
You have no clue what you're talking about, you should work for the Bush Admin. with your semantic bullshit.

Why don't you just provide a definition of "insurgency," and you'll see your choice of wording was poor to retarded.

The UN has peacekeeping missions whilst NATO mounts offensive counterinsurgency and counter-terrorist operations, which are far more aggressive and proactive than "peacekeeping" missions, and without the funny blue hats.

COUNTERINSURGENCY-"a program or an act of combating guerrilla warfare and subversion."
Combating guerilla warfare? Sounds like peacekeeping to me. While the last two years have seen an escalation in our military involvement there so the US can focus on the shitstorm THEY made there, the bottom line is our original deployment in Afghanistan WAS as a peacekeeping capacity and WAS reqested by the Afghan govt. No, Im not referring to "peacekeeping " as the official blue hat dudes, but as the military "objective".The taliban towelheads are the unwelcome shit disturbers, and we are using force to kick them out of there. Why? To KEEP the PEACE. As in, we are not trying to bomb the shit out of and destabilize another country to get at the cheap oil.THATS the difference.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by pflo
Combating guerilla warfare? Sounds like peacekeeping to me.

Peacekeeping implies that there is peace that needs to be kept.

Guerilla warfare is the opposite of peace.

You're welcome.

[Nickdfresh]

That retainer is really paying off.

[pflo]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Peacekeeping implies that there is peace that needs to be kept.

Guerilla warfare is the opposite of peace.

You're welcome.

No guerilla wafare is when they throw bananas and the dominant males fuck the litlle ones up the ass.Like I am doing to you:p . YOURE welcome.

[pflo]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
That retainer is really paying off.

Teeth straightening out?

[ODShowtime]

what's your point?

Originally posted by pflo
WAS reqested by the Afghan govt.

That's the third time you mentioned that canadian forces were requested by the afghan gov't.

Big fuckin whoop! If it wasn't for the US, there wouldn't be a decent afghan gov't. It'd still be the taliban, and they'd still have the most evil, repressive society on the planet!

The Iraqi gov't still needs and requests US help now, and guess what? We helped create that gov't too.

So your point is...?

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by pflo
No guerilla wafare is when they throw bananas and the dominant males fuck the litlle ones up the ass.Like I am doing to you:p . YOURE welcome.

yikes

[pflo]

Re: what's your point?

Originally posted by ODShowtime
That's the third time you mentioned that canadian forces were requested by the afghan gov't.

Big fuckin whoop! If it wasn't for the US, there wouldn't be a decent afghan gov't. It'd still be the taliban, and they'd still have the most evil, repressive society on the planet!

The Iraqi gov't still needs and requests US help now, and guess what? We helped create that gov't too.

So your point is...?

Jesus Christ, go look up the history of Afghanistan before you spew off! The Taliban CAME FROM PAKISTAN AND HAVE ONLY BEEN IN AFGHANISTAN SINCE 1996. Its not like they are some age-old traditional government. Dont lecture me when you obviously do little to educate yourself.If you got something to bring, be able to back it up.....If it wasnt for the US and the Soviets fucking it up ,it wouldnt have been an attractive area for the Taliban to go to in the first place.

[ODShowtime]

Re: Re: what's your point?

Originally posted by pflo
If it wasnt for the US and the Soviets fucking it up ,it wouldnt have been an attractive area for the Taliban to go to in the first place.

Let's get one thing straight asshole. The soviets fucked up afghanistan, not the US.

It's just such moronic viewpoint to think that the Soviets pouring in 90,000 troops and bombing the shit out of the cities isn't the reason for the conditions there in the early 90s.

[pflo]

Re: Re: Re: what's your point?

Originally posted by ODShowtime
Let's get one thing straight asshole. The soviets fucked up afghanistan, not the US.

It's just such moronic viewpoint to think that the Soviets pouring in 90,000 troops and bombing the shit out of the cities isn't the reason for the conditions there in the early 90s.

Name calling, huh? The last sign of desperation. Here, Ill post this AGAIN, maybe this time you will read it and possibly pull your head out of your ass-"Initiation of the insurgency with U.S. and Pakistani support

In June of 1975, fundamentalists attempted to overthrow the PDPA government. They started the insurgent movement in the Panjshir valley, some 100 kilometers north of Kabul, and in a number of other provinces of the country. However, government forces easily suppressed the insurgency and a sizable portion of the insurgents defected and settled in Pakistan where they had total freedom of action. In May 1978, the insurgents found their first base in Pakistan to train armed bands for combat in Afghanistan. Afterwards, similar centers were found in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt.

Numerous political, military and covert actions by US-backed Pakistan were reported. These included political activities and propaganda hostile to the government of Afghanistan taking place in Pakistan, border crossings of men and material from Pakistan to Afghanistan, cross-border firings, acts of sabotage, rocket attacks on major urban centres, violations of Afghan airspace by Pakistani aircraft, the continued presence in Pakistan of training camps and arms depots for Afghan insurgent groups, and direct involvement by Pakistani military personnel inside Afghanistan, as well as restrictions placed on refugees who wished to return to Afghanistan.

The former director of the CIA and current Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs "From the Shadows", that American intelligence services began to aid the opposing factions in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet deployment. On July 3, 1979, US President Jimmy Carter signed a directive authorizing the CIA to conduct covert propaganda operations against the revolutionary regime.

Carter advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski stated "According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise." Brzezinski himself played a fundamental role in crafting U.S. policy, which, unbeknownst even to the Mujahideen, was part of a larger strategy "to induce a Soviet military intervention." In a 1998 interview with Le Nouvel Observateur, Brzezinski recalled proudly:

"That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Soviets into the Afghan trap..." [...]"The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the Soviet Union its Vietnam War."[4]

[ODShowtime]

blah fucking blah.

The "revolutionary regime" ?

Where the fuck do you think that came from?

Just posting some article you found somewhere with no references doesn't mean shit to me or anyone else.

Desperation? Please, this is child's play. I'm just glad someone's stepping up to the plate since the republican losses in November.

[pflo]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
blah fucking blah.

Yup, now I see what level youre at. Im done.Read some books.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by pflo
Yup, now I see what level youre at. Im done.Read some books.

No, you're done because you don't have anything else to say.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by pflo
Yup, now I see what level youre at. Im done.Read some books.

Or you could just post some unattributed bullshit websites which completely distort historical events...