Does anyone think George Bush can be beat in the election?

[Steve Savicki]

Re: Does anyone think George Bush can be beat in the election?

Originally posted by Sarge
IDo you think Bush can lose this election and who do you think can beat him?

Dean if he keeps advertising/campaigning in all the conservative states.

[John Ashcroft]

Nah. Conservatives balk whenever Dean even mentions Iraq, and shiver at the thought of a guy like that being in charge of national defense. No amount of campaigning is gonna change that.

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Hey Sesh, what are your feelings on Gore being given a cushy reporter's job, Clinton going to England, and Dean wussing out on a fake medical excuse during the same period? Hmm? :confused:

I think it proves that, at least then, if you had money or influence you could skip the draft.

In a way Clinton was the least hypocritical about it.

Cheers!

[FORD]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
I think it proves that, at least then, if you had money or influence you could skip the draft.

In a way Clinton was the least hypocritical about it.

Cheers!

Clinton didn't have any money or influence. He grew up dirt poor in Hope Arkansas.

[BrownSound1]

To answer Sarge's original question of who can beat Bush, I'm going to say no one in this election.

Now, on the the National Guard subject. I can understand Va Beach's complaint about Bush's ANG service to a point. To be quite honest, if joining the ANG kept me out of Vietnam then I might would have done the same thing. I think we all would agree that Vietnam was a totally WRONG war for us to be involved in. Or should I say, our military wasn't allowed to end it quickly...because we could have. Now, to me joining the ANG IS doing a service to your state and country, and it is certainly a lot better than running off to fuckin' Europe or Canada and deserting your country all together.

I have a brother-in-law who as soon as his time in the regular army ended he joined the guard. He was in special forces in the Army and I guess he just couldn't totally stop being a soldier. Anyway, he just left for Iraq on the 5th of this month. We talked just before his deployment and he commented that he was more nervous this time than any other time he went out. I asked him why....he pointed to his wife and kids and said, "I didn't have them to worry about when I was 19 or 20 years old." He was quick to point out though that he was GLAD and PROUD to be going to Iraq. You guys may laugh at Guardsmen, but in a lot of cases THEY are making more of a sacrifice than most "regulars." All of our military, both regulars and reserves deserve our thanks and appreciation...except for Sarge's punk ass who's sitting in Texas changing bed pans.

[Guitar Shark]

I supported Dean originally, but I've changed my mind. I'm convinced there's no way he can beat Bush, which quite frankly is my only objective in this election. I've been impressed in what I've seen in Edwards in recent weeks.

[John Ashcroft]

What has Bush done to you???

Why the hate?

[Dr. Love]

I don't like Cheney, or Ashcroft (the real one). I'd like to see them go.

I don't mind President Bush so much ... the huge amount of spending irritates me as does the new size of government.

I kinda like Edwards most out of the democratic guys that I'd take seriously... other than that, Al Sharpton makes me laugh.

But I probably won't make a decision on who I would vote for until late October.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
I supported Dean originally, but I've changed my mind. I'm convinced there's no way he can beat Bush, which quite frankly is my only objective in this election. I've been impressed in what I've seen in Edwards in recent weeks.

Actually, so am I. I think Kerry/Edwards or vice versa would give Bush the most trouble. Clark's a close third in terms of who would be effective.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Dr. Love

I don't mind President Bush so much ... the huge amount of spending irritates me as does the new size of government.

I kinda like Edwards most out of the democratic guys that I'd take seriously.....

Doc, those two statements are contradictory. Edwards is not gonna spend less than Bush.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Dr. Love
I don't like Cheney, or Ashcroft (the real one). I'd like to see them go.

I don't see Cheney being around in the second term. I think he'll step down. Powell will leave. I think Ashcroft will go too. Rumsfeld looks like he's ready to pack it in also. Let's hope Wolfowitz is not his replacement.

[Dr. Love]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Doc, those two statements are contradictory. Edwards is not gonna spend less than Bush.

I don't see them as contradictory at all. I said I like Edwards out of the democrats (last I checked Bush was Republican. )

In any event, I think spending would probably shrink under a democrat, because republicans wouldn't probably want to work with a Democrat President.

My goal would be gridlock.