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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49563

    Evangelicals Take On Global Warming Fight

    Evangelical Body Stays Course on Warming
    Conservatives Oppose Stance


    By Alan Cooperman
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Sunday, March 11, 2007; A05

    Rebuffing Christian radio commentator James C. Dobson, the board of directors of the National Association of Evangelicals reaffirmed its position that environmental protection, which it calls "creation care," is an important moral issue.

    Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, and two dozen other conservative Christian leaders, including Gary L. Bauer, Tony Perkins and Paul M. Weyrich, sent the board a letter this month denouncing the association's vice president, the Rev. Richard Cizik, for urging attention to global warming.

    The letter argued that evangelicals are divided on whether climate change is a real problem, and it said that "Cizik and others are using the global warming controversy to shift the emphasis away from the great moral issues of our time," such as abortion and same-sex marriage.

    If Cizik "cannot be trusted to articulate the views of American evangelicals on environmental issues, then we respectfully suggest that he be encouraged to resign his position with the NAE," the letter concluded.

    The Rev. Leith Anderson, the association's president, said yesterday that the board did not respond to the letter during a two-day meeting that ended Friday in Minneapolis. But, he said, the board reaffirmed a 2004 position paper, "For the Health of the Nations," that outlined seven areas of civic responsibility for evangelicals, including creation care along with religious freedom, nurturing the family, sanctity of life, compassion for the poor, human rights and restraining violence.

    On Friday, the association's board approved a 12-page statement on terrorism and torture. Anderson said that Cizik gave a report to the board on his work in Washington as vice president for governmental affairs and that there was no effort to reprimand him. "I think there was a lot of support from me, from the executive committee and from the board for Rich Cizik," Anderson said.
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59558

    #2
    Revelation 11:18
    The nations were angry; and your wrath has come.
    The time has come for judging the dead,
    and for rewarding your servants the prophets
    and your saints and those who reverence your name,
    both small and great—
    and for destroying those who destroy the earth."


    I think that clarifies where God stands on global warming
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Warham
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Mar 2004
      • 14589

      #3
      And what if global warming were the result of natural causes, FORD? You know, by the Sun, what God created?

      You know that the polar ice caps on Mars are melting as fast as ours, right? Are the martians driving around spewing carbon dioxide into that atmosphere as well? I don't think so.

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49563

        #4
        Great points Warham!

        I mean, WTF do all those scientists know anyways?!

        Jesus will save us!

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        • BigBadBrian
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 10625

          #5
          Originally posted by Nickdfresh

          Jesus will save us!
          Some of us, that is.

          You liberals and other non-believers will spend eternity in hell, however.



          John 14:6 (New International Version)

          Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49563

            #6
            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
            Some of us, that is.

            You liberals and other non-believers will spend eternity in hell, however.



            John 14:6 (New International Version)

            Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

            Well, I guess you're fucked then, sunshine...

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            • scamper
              Commando
              • May 2005
              • 1073

              #7
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              I mean, WTF do all those scientists know anyways?!
              Not all of the scientists agree about what is causing global warming. This article proves that scientists, like the people on the forum have different opinions.



              Some say global warming is the sun's fault
              www.chinaview.cn 2007-03-14 11:15:51
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              Earth's not the only planet in solar system that's heating up; so is Mars, Jupiter and Pluto. And some scientists say global warming is the sun's fault, not man's.

              Earth's not the only planet in solar system that's heating up; so is Mars, Jupiter and Pluto. And some scientists say global warming is the sun's fault, not man's.

              BEIJING, March 14 (Xinhuanet) -- Earth's not the only planet in solar system that's heating up; so is Mars, Jupiter and Pluto. And some scientists say global warming is the sun's fault, not man's.

              Others argue such claims are misleading and create the false impression rapid global warming is a natural phenomenon, media reported Wednesday.

              While evidence suggests fluctuations in solar activity can affect climate on Earth, and has done so in the past, the majority of climate scientists and astrophysicists agree the sun should not be blamed for the current and historically sudden increase in global temperatures.

              Habibullo Abdussamatov, the head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, recently linked the attenuation of ice caps on Mars to fluctuations in the sun's output. Abdussamatov also blamed solar fluctuations for Earth's current global warming trend. His initial comments were published online by National Geographic News.

              "Man-made greenhouse warming has [made a] small contribution [to] the warming on Earth in recent years, but [it] cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance," Abdussamatov told LiveScience in an email interview last week. "The considerable heating and cooling on the Earth and on Mars always will be practically parallel."

              Abdussamatov's critics contend Mars'recent warmup is more likely due to natural variations in the planet's orbit and tilt. On Earth, these wobbles, known as Milankovitch cycles, are thought to contribute to the onset and disappearance of ice ages.

              "It's believed that what drives climate change on Mars are orbital variations," said Jeffrey Plaut, a project scientist for NASA's Mars Odyssey mission. "The Earth also goes through orbital variations similar to that of Mars."

              Charles Long, a climate physicist at Pacific Northwest National Laboratories in Washington, says Abdussamatov's theory that solar fluctuations are causing global warming is nonsense.

              "That's nuts," Long said in a telephone interview. "It doesn't make physical sense that that's the case."

              Long's team published a study in 2005 in the journal Science showing Earth experienced a period of "solar global dimming" from 1960 to 1990. During that timeframe solar radiation hitting our planet’s surface decreased. Then from the mid-1990s onward, the trend reversed and Earth experienced a "solar brightening."

              These changes were not likely caused by fluctuations in the output of the sun, Long explained, but rather increases in atmospheric clouds or aerosols that reflected solar radiation back into space.

              Others have pointed out anomalous warming on other worlds in our solar system.

              Benny Peiser, a social anthropologist at Liverpool John Moores University who monitors studies and news reports of asteroids, global warming and other potentially apocalyptic topics, recently quoted in his daily electronic newsletter the following from a blog called Strata-Sphere:

              "Global warming on Neptune's moon Triton as well as Jupiter and Pluto, and now Mars has some [scientists] scratching their heads over what could possibly be in common with the warming of all these planets ... Could there be something in common with all the planets in our solar system that might cause them all to warm at the same time?"

              In fact, scientists have alternative explanations for the anomalous warming on each of these other planetary bodies.

              The warming on Triton could be the result of an extreme southern summer on the moon, a season that occurs every few hundred years, as well as possible changes in the makeup of surface ice that caused it to absorb more of the sun's heat.

              Researchers credited Pluto's warming to possible eruptive activity and a delayed thawing from its last close approach to the sun in 1989.

              And the recent storm activity on Jupiter is being blamed on a recurring climatic cycle that churns up material from the gas giant's interior and lofts it to the surface, where it is heated by the sun.

              "The small measured changes in solar output and variations from one decade to the next are only on the order of a fraction of a percent, and if you do the calculations not even large enough to really provide a detectable signal in the surface temperature record," said Penn State meteorologist Michael Mann.

              The link between solar activity and global warming is just another scapegoat for human-caused warming, Mann told LiveScience.

              "Solar activity continues to be one of the last bastions of contrarians," Mann said. "People who don't accept the existence of anthropogenic climate change still try to point to solar activity."

              (Agencies)
              Editor: Gareth Dodd


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              • scamper
                Commando
                • May 2005
                • 1073

                #8
                another link


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                • scamper
                  Commando
                  • May 2005
                  • 1073

                  #9
                  The point is that you can believe anyone or anything you want, it's your choice. Take your pick.....

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49563

                    #10
                    No dude. You're delusional if you really believe that.

                    The only article you posted from a "mainstream media" source (Reuters) pretty much concludes that there is a global warming phenomenon...

                    The only scientists that disagree with the mainstream academic and scientific community on this are usually (with a few exceptions) on the take from the oil and gas industries...

                    And if not, why have oil companies almost openly been offering monies to scientists writing papers that dispute global warming?

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