Clinton, Giuliani lead in national polling

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
LOL. The Dems are SOOOOOOOO losing this election. Again.

Funny, but I've heard that some Republican strategists believe that there is no way they can beat Clinton...

And Giuliani will be flushed once the Religious right trumps him...

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by FORD
Howard Dean owned the "scream" within three days of the media hype. He laughed at it himself, so why shouldn't I?

This is the first time you've laughed at it, to my knowledge...

I still think it's bullshit how the sound was manipulated in the first place, and then repeated endlessly in the corporate whore media, in entirely the wrong context, but that 's how the DLC and the corporate whore media helped Chimpy steal 2004.

Of course it was repeated endlessly, it was a classic screw up...

Dude, nothing was "manipulated" and I don't even know what you're referring to as the "wrong context"...

It is what it is...Dean got carried away, he was a little (make that a lot) too close to the mike and his scream didn't turn out as cool as he would have liked, nothing more, nothing less...

Either way the guy is a freak...

Though, still not as freaky as algore...

Happy campaining...

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
And Giuliani will be flushed once the Religious right trumps him...

What now ??

And I just love how some people look at the so called "religious right" as bad...

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Well, except for this one, maybe.

"Not only are we going to New Hampshire ... we're going to South Carolina and Oklahoma and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico, and we're going to California and Texas and New York! And we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan. And then we're going to Washington, D.C. to take back the White House, Yeeeeeaaaaaargh!" -- Howard Dean, Iowa concession speech

Shark, now that's just mean-spirited.

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

Originally posted by ELVIS
What now ??

And I just love how some people look at the so called "religious right" as bad...

Not bad, just mentally defected...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by ELVIS
What now ??

And I just love how some people look at the so called "religious right" as bad...

I didn't say they were "bad," although some clearly are hypocrite scum, like Falwell and Robertson.

In any case, Rudolf is a douche. He told his wife, who had cancer, that he was divorcing her via city television.

He's had numerous affairs, is pro-choice, lived with a gay couple after being thrown out of the mayor's house by his now ex-wife for screwing other chicks, and his children are estranged and refuse to talk to him...

You tell me how his campaign isn't going to sink like buckets of concrete...

He's not the 9/11 poster boy of sympathy many associate him as...

[FORD]

Here is the REAL version of the Dean speech. This is what was seen and heard by the crowd in Iowa........

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[FORD]

Notice how barely audible the "YEEEEEEEEAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHH" was on the house PA system??

It was only because the mediawhores took the direct feed from the condenser mic (clipped to Dean's tie) that the fraudulent presentation of the speech was allowed to continue.

The crowd barely heard the scream at all, but once you isolate it, amplify it and take it completely out of context (i.e. "HOWARD DEAN MELTDOWN!!!!!) then the liars win. And the liars of the corporate whore media were targeted by Howard Dean, so they had to target him. Damn shame that so many chickenshit Kerrysuckers fell for it.

[ELVIS]

No dude...

I was watching it live at the time...

No WAY is what you're saying is true...

Dude, his scream was deliberately REMOVED from that lame-ass clip you just posted...

I WAS WATCHING IT LIVE WHEN IT HAPPENED - GET THAT THROUGH YOUR SKULL!!!

As were probably a few million americans, and we know what we saw...

No way dude...

No way...

No way...

No way...

No way...

[Guitar Shark]

I saw it live too, and for perhaps the first time EVER, I agree with ELVIS.

[FORD]

Originally posted by ELVIS
No dude...

I was watching it live at the time...

No WAY is what you're saying is true...

Dude, his scream was deliberately REMOVED from that lame-ass clip you just posted...

I WAS WATCHING IT LIVE WHEN IT HAPPENED - GET THAT THROUGH YOUR SKULL!!!

As were probably a few million americans, and we know what we saw...

No way dude...

No way...

No way...

No way...

No way...

The video I posted was taken by someone who was there, at the rally with their own camera. It is 100% authentic raw footage. Not remixed and edited like the media whore clips.

You've probably never seen the inside of a TV studio, but as a musician, I'm assuming you have seen a mixing console of some kind. You know damn well how easy it would be to boost the sound coming of that condenser mic.

And condenser mic's are specifically designed to eliminate ambient noise, which in this case would have been the sounds of the crowd.

And then, when you have an amplified scream of Howard Dean, removed from the context of merely trying to be heard over the roar of an enthusiastic crowd of supporters, it's easy enough to misrepresent the scream as some sort of "rage meltdown", even though he wasn't speaking out of rage at all, but more as a coach in a locker room would at halftime.

Martin Luther King said that "text without context is pretext". He would have said the same about what was done to Dean's speech.

[Guitar Shark]

What about those of us who saw the live broadcast, Dave? Are you suggesting that the "whore media" knew what HD was going to say in advance, and somehow boosted the scream through the condenser mic for a live broadcast?

Come on, man. Why can't you just admit that HD screamed? So what if he did? All it shows is that he was passionate about what he was saying.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
What about those of us who saw the live broadcast, Dave? Are you suggesting that the "whore media" knew what HD was going to say in advance, and somehow boosted the scream through the condenser mic for a live broadcast?

Come on, man. Why can't you just admit that HD screamed? So what if he did? All it shows is that he was passionate about what he was saying.

As I said, the scream was an attempt to be heard over the roar of the crowd. And in the natural setting of the crowd, over the house PA, the scream wasn't even heard.

The network feed setup was probably done for sound clarity reasons, which is understandable. But once they stumbled on something which they COULD exploit, they did. And anyone who did not watch the entire speech believed the sickening spin that the Busheep talking heads put on it.

And with a seven second delay common on all "live" network broadcasts, it is VERY likely that the mediawhore sound engineer slid the volume up on the scream.

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

I saw it live too. I thought someone had just goosed his liberal ass with a turkey neck.

Blood-curdling.

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by FORD
It is 100% authentic raw footage.

How do you know, or how can you prove that ??

And, no, some BCE operative didn't boost the scream inside of a seven second delay...

And I can pick apart all of your other points, but it's pointless...